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Old 03-01-2021, 10:53 PM   #1
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If the SB OL is what you’re worried about, why would you want to replace Fisher AND Schwartz in one offseason?

If anything, you should want to bring them back and add depth (some of which is already coming via opt outs).

If we try to replace both T’s in one offseason, there’s a good possibility that our depth is even worse in 2021.
If they can come back at a somewhat high level we could have one of the best lines in football.
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Old 03-01-2021, 11:02 PM   #2
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If they can come back at a somewhat high level we could have one of the best lines in football.
Can we just clone our 2003-5 O-Line and use them? I mean come on, it's the 21st Century. Where are my flying cars and serviceable football player clones?
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Can we just clone our 2003-5 O-Line and use them? I mean come on, it's the 21st Century. Where are my flying cars and serviceable football player clones?
I couldn't imagine the insanity of this offense if we could have that line replace this one. Schwartz in his prime to play RT and I don't think we would lose a game. Pat would have 60 TDs a year.
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I couldn't imagine the insanity of this offense if we could have that line replace this one. Schwartz in his prime to play RT and I don't think we would lose a game. Pat would have 60 TDs a year.
If we had that line, we wouldn't probably have Mahomes, or Tyreek, or even a decent defense.

You simply can't invest in one unit like that a build a balanced team.
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If the team feels that Fisher and Schwartz are both going to be okay, then this is the best possible scenario.

LDT is an upgrade over Wylie.

Both OT's are good to great.

Alegretti was serviceable at LG.

We need a Center. We need some depth. That's not so bad.

Osemele maybe returns on a cheap deal. Niang. Rankin.

It all looks a lot better with Fisher AND Schwartz.
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If the team feels that Fisher and Schwartz are both going to be okay, then this is the best possible scenario.

LDT is an upgrade over Wylie.

Both OT's are good to great.

Alegretti was serviceable at LG.

We need a Center. We need some depth. That's not so bad.

Osemele maybe returns on a cheap deal. Niang. Rankin.

It all looks a lot better with Fisher AND Schwartz.
The Kiper Walker Little slotting to the Chiefs is interesting, and a Reid favored prototype
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I'd guess return to light practice and not to the field.
He'll be PUP'd to start the season to celebrate his newly restructured deal. (Or maybe that new IR designation? Whichever.)

Schwartz is an unknown at this point, which makes me understand what Clay is saying when he says cut them both. That said, I'd take those two coming off of injury if the Chiefs think they are full go than rookies or rookie/FA at those spots.
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IF The team feels confident that both Fisher and Schwartz will return to form then the OT situation is in good shape with Niang and possibly Wanegho in the wings. I'd still like a veteran swing guy.

Interior line gets an upgrade with LDT over Wylie. Alegretti is serviceable, he's not a guy you have to help anyway. Osemele is a cheap vet option to back-up/push for a spot depending on his health. Rankin is a G. Durant has potential at G.

We need a Center. Reiter isn't good enough. Maybe a vet on a prove it deal like Britt? Or a draftee like Humphrey/Myers/Meinerz. I'd prefer to do both.

That would appear to upgrade not only the starting 5 over the last half of the season, but also improve the quality of depth.
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IF The team feels confident that both Fisher and Schwartz will return to form then the OT situation is in good shape with Niang and possibly Wanegho in the wings. I'd still like a veteran swing guy.

Interior line gets an upgrade with LDT over Wylie. Alegretti is serviceable, he's not a guy you have to help anyway. Osemele is a cheap vet option to back-up/push for a spot depending on his health. Rankin is a G. Durant has potential at G.

We need a Center. Reiter isn't good enough. Maybe a vet on a prove it deal like Britt? Or a draftee like Humphrey/Myers/Meinerz. I'd prefer to do both.

That would appear to upgrade not only the starting 5 over the last half of the season, but also improve the quality of depth.
Yep.
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IF The team feels confident that both Fisher and Schwartz will return to form then the OT situation is in good shape with Niang and possibly Wanegho in the wings. I'd still like a veteran swing guy.

Interior line gets an upgrade with LDT over Wylie. Alegretti is serviceable, he's not a guy you have to help anyway. Osemele is a cheap vet option to back-up/push for a spot depending on his health. Rankin is a G. Durant has potential at G.

We need a Center. Reiter isn't good enough. Maybe a vet on a prove it deal like Britt? Or a draftee like Humphrey/Myers/Meinerz. I'd prefer to do both.

That would appear to upgrade not only the starting 5 over the last half of the season, but also improve the quality of depth.
That’s pretty much where I am at this point. Get a quality OC and a quality swing OT as contingency for EF and MS.
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IF The team feels confident that both Fisher and Schwartz will return to form then the OT situation is in good shape
The Chiefs put too much faith in Schwartz eventually returning from his injury last season and it derailed their season in the Super Bowl.

Putting too much faith in Eric Berry being able to return and "fix" the shitty 2018 defense was also a failure.

It's fine for the Chiefs to be optimistic about Schwartz/Fisher being ready for the start of the 2021 season, but they better have a more solid Plan B than Remmers at LT and Wylie at RT.
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The Chiefs put too much faith in Schwartz eventually returning from his injury last season and it derailed their season in the Super Bowl.

Putting too much faith in Eric Berry being able to return and "fix" the shitty 2018 defense was also a failure.

It's fine for the Chiefs to be optimistic about Schwartz/Fisher being ready for the start of the 2021 season, but they better have a more solid Plan B than Remmers at LT and Wylie at RT.
Plan B is Lucas Niang and that’s a pretty excellent 3rd tackle compared to the rest of the league
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Plan B is Lucas Niang and that’s a pretty excellent 3rd tackle compared to the rest of the league
And Remmers was just fine as a plan C at RT. The problem was we lost both T’s. Any team that loses both starting T’s is going to be ****ed.

Veach should’ve had a plan D though!
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Plan B is Lucas Niang and that’s a pretty excellent 3rd tackle compared to the rest of the league
Niang hasn't played in a football game or participated in an organized football practice since October 2019... but we are now going to project him to be a reliable Plan B option at LT if Fisher isn't ready.

Interesting.
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Niang hasn't played in a football game or participated in an organized football practice since October 2019... but we are now going to project him to be a reliable Plan B option at LT if Fisher isn't ready.

Interesting.
Your post mentioned Schwartz for the most part, but yes our 3rd tackle is probably Lucas Niang, who like LDT and Damien Williams will be going through a full physical when they get back in 2 weeks to see where they are.

Also who cares if Niang hasn’t played since Fall 2019? Are you insinuating he now doesn’t know how to play football anymore? The guy was on video doing off-season training this year. If he checks out medically then what is the problem?

And yes we might get a low cost vet to help cover Fisher. Idk what you people are wanting here unless you draft a tackle early.

Quality left tackles are pretty damn hard to find and good ones cost a shit load of money that we don’t have. So unless we draft someone that’s pretty much what you have.

Look around the league and tell me what team has a 3rd tackle that is even average.
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