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Old 10-25-2021, 05:21 PM   #1
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Fact: If the Chiefs can develop a credible run game, things will open back up.
The Chiefs aren't going to keep running the ball if they go down 3 scores. Which is what happened yesterday.

Everyone thinking there's this one-thing the Chiefs have to do to fix everything is just...not accurate.

They're failing in all phases of the game at different times of the game. Right now, they have nothing that works consistently every single week.
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Old 10-25-2021, 05:22 PM   #2
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Fact: If the Chiefs can develop a credible run game, things will open back up.
I think it's tied to the quick, short passing game.

I don't want to suck off Brady too much, but the short game is a huge reason they guy is still producing at a high level.
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Old 10-25-2021, 05:21 PM   #3
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of the list of problems...Patrick is the least of my worries. Not concerned at all because he probably wouldn't be pressing as much if literally every other phase/group on the team would pull their weight at an average performance level.

media just stirring up shit like they always do.

I'd be more concerned (if I were a media slob writing a piece) about Hughes and Reed standing by watching Henry run by them; and Jones for that matter.
That doesn't speak to lack of talent....that speaks to lack of effort and 'want to'.

that shit spreads like a disease on a team.
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When we lost to them in 17' I mentally checked out.

It was a full wind-up kick to the balls.
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Old 10-25-2021, 05:38 PM   #6
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When we lost to them in 17' I mentally checked out.

It was a full wind-up kick to the balls.
Yeah that was it for me too.

Either that or the jets game where we lost like 40-35 and Peters chucked his cleat into the stands.

Then we went on that little winning streak at the end of the year and I regained hope just enough to be suckered into buying tickets for the Wild Card game, where I got the swift kick in the balls I deserved for having faith.
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Yeah that was it for me too.

Either that or the jets game where we lost like 40-35 and Peters chucked his cleat into the stands.

Then we went on that little winning streak at the end of the year and I regained hope just enough to be suckered into buying tickets for the Wild Card game, where I got the swift kick in the balls I deserved for having faith.
That Titans game....

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Yeah that was it for me too.

Either that or the jets game where we lost like 40-35 and Peters chucked his cleat into the stands.

Then we went on that little winning streak at the end of the year and I regained hope just enough to be suckered into buying tickets for the Wild Card game, where I got the swift kick in the balls I deserved for having faith.
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When we lost to them in 17' I mentally checked out.

It was a full wind-up kick to the balls.
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Veach will get (deservedly so) at least a couple more drafts, but this season has brought to light that this roster has zero depth and isn't that good anyway (save for the usual suspects). This season should serve as a wake up call. No more missing on high draft picks.

The OP article seems pretty accurate to me, including the last segment. If this team can get in the playoffs, anything is possible. But they've made it a tough row to hoe, no doubt.
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Veach will get (deservedly so) at least a couple more drafts, but this season has brought to light that this roster has zero depth and isn't that good anyway (save for the usual suspects). This season should serve as a wake up call. No more missing on high draft picks.

The OP article seems pretty accurate to me, including the last segment. If this team can get in the playoffs, anything is possible. But they've made it a tough row to hoe, no doubt.
I think it's clear that the stars n scrubs plan isn't working.

I like how aggressive Veach has been; but there have been a lot of misses. I'm not running him out of town yet, that would be dumb.

But we're going to need to change the plan going forward. You can get two good DE's (not great, but solid) for what we're paying Clark. A good safety and a good LB for what HB wants to get paid. Reed isn't even as good as Nnadi that's a complete waste of money. We're going to need to do like Belichick used to; mid-priced vets and over the hill guys with a little left in the tank to build a deep defense without any glaring holes. Just be solid everywhere. Draft well, and just be steady on defense.
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Old 10-25-2021, 06:25 PM   #14
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I think it's clear that the stars n scrubs plan isn't working.

I like how aggressive Veach has been; but there have been a lot of misses. I'm not running him out of town yet, that would be dumb.

But we're going to need to change the plan going forward. You can get two good DE's (not great, but solid) for what we're paying Clark. A good safety and a good LB for what HB wants to get paid. Reed isn't even as good as Nnadi that's a complete waste of money. We're going to need to do like Belichick used to; mid-priced vets and over the hill guys with a little left in the tank to build a deep defense without any glaring holes. Just be solid everywhere. Draft well, and just be steady on defense.
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Veatch and the talent evaluators are more of a concern of mine that Patrick.

how many players were drafted in spots that are typically reserved for starters and/or contributors to an offense/defense have we whiffed on. Or made us fans scratch their heads.

One thing I know, for me personally, I'm 'done' with trading away picks; particularly 1sts.
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