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Old 03-26-2022, 10:58 AM  
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The roster as it stands

My 2022 Game 1 roster guesses:

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buechele
RB - CEH/McKinnon/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - MVS/ Hardman/Watson
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Fountain OR Coleman
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Wylie/Christian
RG - Smith/Caliendo
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretii
LT - OBJ

O = 26

LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Dunlap
WLB - Bolton/Harris
MLB - Gay/Carter
SLB - Lee/Chenal
LCB - McDuffie/Fenton/Lammons
RCB - Sneed/Williams/Watson
SS - Reid/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush

D = 24

ST
Butker
Townsend
Winchester

PTW- PS
Crum - PS
Franks - Release
Ealy - Release
Fleet-Davis - PS
Jones - Release
Gore - PS
Powell - PS
Gordon - Release
Kinnard - PS
Niang - IR
Bootle - PS
Key - Release
Barcoo - Released
Johnson - Released
Anderson - PS
Kaindoh - PS




Just trying to keep up....makes it a little more clear to be able to see needs/wants

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buchele
RB - CEH/Jones/Gore/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - Hardman/MVS/Coleman/Dieter
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Gordon/Powell/Fountain
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Niang/Wylie/Christian/Kinnard
RG - Smith
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretti
LT - OBJ/PTW
LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Kaindoh
WLB - Harris/Chenal
MLB - Bolton/Carter
SLB - Gay/Lee
LCB - Fenton/McDuffie/Bootle/Watson
RCB - Sneed/Baker/Williams/Barcoo/Johnson
SS - Reid/Key/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush/Anderson

Salaries in the spoilers

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Old 03-26-2022, 01:53 PM   #46
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Wouldn’t you rank the chiefs group as last compared to these? At least right now? The draft could change all of that?
Fam - think about it JSS/Hardman/MVS for your 2/3 or Williams/Guyton/Renfrow/Edwards/Sutton/Patrick.
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Old 03-26-2022, 02:44 PM   #47
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Fam - think about it JSS/Hardman/MVS for your 2/3 or Williams/Guyton/Renfrow/Edwards/Sutton/Patrick.
Chiefs are so far back when it comes up WR group, it's ridiculous.
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Old 03-26-2022, 03:00 PM   #48
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Chiefs are so far back when it comes up WR group, it's ridiculous.
Uh how you figure.
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Old 03-26-2022, 03:04 PM   #49
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I'm surprised more people aren't seeing trading up for a WR as a good option. I might not hate getting a DE if it's Jermain Johnson. But it feels like a priority is getting one of the top 6 and using the rest on defence.

I know we all believe Mahomes can drag a mediocre WR group to decent results - but how much do we want to test that? We KNOW this team with elite receivers is deadly even with a turd defence - and frankly the defence punched aboved its weight a fair bit the second half of last year anyway.

They'll be ballers at WR in rounds 2, 3 and beyond but I'm tempted to take the guessing out as much as possible. Our DL is so bad that just about anyone we then bring in through other picks improves it imo.
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Uh how you figure.

They're obviously a lot worse than LV and LA.

Denver is the closest and each of their two top WRs had more yards than all 3 of of ours despite having Lock and Bridgewater while our WRs had Mahomes and Rodgers throwing to them.

They also have Jeudy who got injured but is better than all of our WRs.
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Old 03-26-2022, 03:42 PM   #51
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Chiefs are so far back when it comes up WR group, it's ridiculous.
Break it down for me

JSS (6'1" 25 YO) 5 year pro 63 games 3800 yds 26 TDS
M. Williams (6'4" 27 YO) 5 year pro 72 games 3600 yds 26 TDS
Renfrow (5'10" 26 YO) 3 year pro 46 games 2300 yds 15 TDS
Sutton (6'4" 26 YO) 4 year pro 50 games 2700 yds 7 TDS

MVS (6'4" 27 YO) 4 year pro 59 games 2200 yds 13 TDS
Guyton (6'1" 24 YO) 2 year pro 35 games 1000 yds 6 TDS
Edwards (6'3" 23 yo) 2 year pro 28 games 800 yds 4 TDS
Patrick (6'4" 28 YO) 4 year pro 55 games 2000 yds 12 TDS

Hardman (5'10" 24 yo) 3 year pro 49 games 1800 yds 12 TDS


Yeah - we don't have a true #1 YET - but I'd take our #2/#3 combo over any of the others. M Williams is pretty close but his production #'s include 9 more games than JSS.
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Old 03-26-2022, 03:52 PM   #52
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Break it down for me

JSS (6'1" 25 YO) 5 year pro 63 games 3800 yds 26 TDS
M. Williams (6'4" 27 YO) 5 year pro 72 games 3600 yds 26 TDS
Renfrow (5'10" 26 YO) 3 year pro 46 games 2300 yds 15 TDS
Sutton (6'4" 26 YO) 4 year pro 50 games 2700 yds 7 TDS

MVS (6'4" 27 YO) 4 year pro 59 games 2200 yds 13 TDS
Guyton (6'1" 24 YO) 2 year pro 35 games 1000 yds 6 TDS
Edwards (6'3" 23 yo) 2 year pro 28 games 800 yds 4 TDS
Patrick (6'4" 28 YO) 4 year pro 55 games 2000 yds 12 TDS

Hardman (5'10" 24 yo) 3 year pro 49 games 1800 yds 12 TDS


Yeah - we don't have a true #1 YET - but I'd take our #2/#3 combo over any of the others. M Williams is pretty close but his production #'s include 9 more games than JSS.
Just to break it out between JSS and Williams - had JSS completed his season and ONLY produced what he did the last full year he played in the remaining 12 games he would be at

75 games 4600 yds 35 TDS
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Old 03-26-2022, 04:16 PM   #53
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JSS (6'1" 25 YO) 5 years 471 tgts 323 rec 68% catch
M. Williams (6'4" 27 YO) 5 years 393 tgts 223 rec 56% catch
Renfrow (5'10" 26 YO) 3 years 276 tgts 208 rec 75% catch
Sutton (6'4" 26 YO) 4 years 312 tgts 175 rec 56% catch

MVS (6'4" 27 YO) 4 years 247 tgt 123 rec 50% catch
Guyton (6'1" 24 YO) 3 years 105 tgt 59 rec 56% catch
Edwards (6'3" 23 yo) 2 years 74 tgts 45 rec 60% catch
Patrick (6'4" 28 YO) 4 years 236 tgts 143 rec 58% catch

Hardman (5'10" 24 yo) 3 years 186 tgts 125 rec 68% catch @ year 2 Hardman was 103 tgts 63 rec 65% catch
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Shenault 6'1" 23 yo 2 year pro 30 games 1200 yds 5 TDS 179 tgts 121 rec 67% catch
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Weird how removing Hill makes all the non-bolds looks meh..

QB - Mahomes/Henne
RB - CEH/Jones/Gore
FB - Burton
WR1 - Hardman/MVS/Coleman/Dieter
WR2 - Juju/Gordon/Powell/Fountain
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
Your fanbase knocks the Chiefs' roster every year while pumping up your own. Yet KC is in the conference title game at minimum every year while Denver sits below .500.
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Old 03-26-2022, 04:50 PM   #56
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Last? Nah - We got a better QB, TE and WR2/3 than the rest the only thing they have better is a WR1 and a RB
I wasn’t including qb. Just comparing skill positions. Most of the other teams wr2 is better than our best wr.
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I wasn’t including qb. Just comparing skill positions. Most of the other teams wr2 is better than our best wr.
Bruh. Who do you think our best WR is right now?
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Bruh. Who do you think our best WR is right now?
Probably juju.
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Old 03-26-2022, 05:40 PM   #59
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Probably juju.
Bet take JSS against any of those other WR easy. The only one that is close is M. Williams and when you figure that JSS sat out 12 games last year and M.Williams didn't it gets pretty obvious JSS is waaaaaayyyyy better than any #2 WR in the AFCW

JSS (6'1" 25 YO) 5 year pro 63 games 3800 yds 26 TDS
M. Williams (6'4" 27 YO) 5 year pro 72 games 3600 yds 26 TDS
Renfrow (5'10" 26 YO) 3 year pro 46 games 2300 yds 15 TDS
Sutton (6'4" 26 YO) 4 year pro 50 games 2700 yds 7 TDS
Guyton (6'1" 24 YO) 2 year pro 35 games 1000 yds 6 TDS
Edwards (6'3" 23 yo) 2 year pro 28 games 800 yds 4 TDS
Patrick (6'4" 28 YO) 4 year pro 55 games 2000 yds 12 TDS

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Old 03-26-2022, 05:45 PM   #60
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Juju lost his juju after his breakout season. MVS has blistering speed and a legit deep threat, but there’s a reason Rodgers didn’t target him much. Veach was really reaching when he signed those two. As it stands, we lack any true threats in the passing game. Gonna make it easier to contain Kelce, and our running game isn’t going to help. The elite WR in this draft won’t be available at the bottom of the 1st round. What’s Allen Robinson up to these days?
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