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Old 11-07-2022, 07:57 AM   #1
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Good post, I think I agree with pretty much all of it. As for the offensive "struggles" and particularly the run, i mean, I try and keep it in perspective! This is a team that is beating up on all but the very best Ds and it's faced some very tough ones. But the challenges aren't new, we all saw them from the beginning of the year.

It's a mixture. The OTs have played badly, Trey has been banged up and taken a step back. We have a scheme that doesn't seem to maximise our RB's strengths, or at least mask their weaknesses - and our OL doesn't seem to execute these plays that well. Against good secondaries playing man we miss an elite WR who can separate - and Mahomes has maybe held on for a tick too long on occasion, but it's connected. It all adds up. BUT - point 8 is right, this was a very, very good D. As good as this offence can be we're not going to put 40 on these teams every time. We're not going to put 40 on SF every time.

One of the things I really liked seeing was Juju working the intermediate stuff well. The fact that Toney was involved is promising and I STILL think Moore will be a valuable piece. The cavalry isn't coming or the OTs and run game, same with the DL. If we win it all it'll be partly in spite of these things and partly just better execution and cohesion.
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Old 11-07-2022, 07:59 AM   #2
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I don't think you're gonna get much from Moore this season. I don't know what the deal is there, but he just doesn't seem ready for this level yet.
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Old 11-07-2022, 08:02 AM   #3
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I don't think you're gonna get much from Moore this season. I don't know what the deal is there, but he just doesn't seem ready for this level yet.
agreed. I want to see the snap counts but I thought I saw more of Watson last night then in previous games.
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Old 11-07-2022, 08:05 AM   #4
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I don't think you're gonna get much from Moore this season. I don't know what the deal is there, but he just doesn't seem ready for this level yet.
Yeah, I thought the scouting report was that he's a fast learner and hard worker. I am plenty sure that he is. And yet he seems to give up on some of his routes and doesn't seem to have a great understanding of how to adjust his routes. I think a lot of this is lack of confidence.
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Old 11-07-2022, 08:07 AM   #5
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Yeah, I thought the scouting report was that he's a fast learner and hard worker. I am plenty sure that he is. And yet he seems to give up on some of his routes and doesn't seem to have a great understanding of how to adjust his routes. I think a lot of this is lack of confidence.
Really glad they tried him out as a punter now...ffs. Like I say, think he'll come good, but no doubt it's been underwhelming so far.
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Old 11-07-2022, 08:01 AM   #6
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Cris Collinsworth was praising Wylie last night multiple times.

That's some Bizarro World shit right there.
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Old 11-07-2022, 02:59 PM   #7
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Cris Collinsworth was praising Wylie last night multiple times.

That's some Bizarro World shit right there.
Yep, multiple times. I caught myself wondering what his motivation might be? Relative?

Been a fan of his clear back to when he was a WR and know he knows a lot more about the game than I do, and maybe even more than some others on CP.
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Old 11-08-2022, 09:29 AM   #8
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Cris Collinsworth was praising Wylie last night multiple times.

That's some Bizarro World shit right there.
Wylie is an enigma. There are some plays where he actually looks like a competent NFL RT. But then there are plays where he looks like he doesn't belong. Too much inconsistency. I don't know if Niang will provide that but it's gotta be worth trying.
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Old 11-07-2022, 08:10 AM   #9
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That game brought back memories of what Elway used to do to us in the last few minutes of a game. We would have the lead and then he would scramble out of a sack and make some stupid, ridiculous throw for a 1st. Then he was scrambling in for a TD, etc.

Next thing you know our lead with under 10 mins left is gone and we are wondering WTF just happened?
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Old 11-07-2022, 03:56 PM   #10
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That game brought back memories of what Elway used to do to us in the last few minutes of a game. We would have the lead and then he would scramble out of a sack and make some stupid, ridiculous throw for a 1st. Then he was scrambling in for a TD, etc.

Next thing you know our lead with under 10 mins left is gone and we are wondering WTF just happened?
The Mahomes effect.

Teams get excited and nervous when they are up late vs Mahomes/chiefs.

Then blow it.
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Mahomes put the team on his back and willed them to win. MVP performance.
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Old 11-07-2022, 08:35 AM   #12
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That's where I think you need a rojo option. You need someone who can just power through for a few even where there's nothing there. We have to have a snowplow option at least some of the time
We threw the ball on 70+ passing attempts. If the dude can't or won't block, it ain't happening man. This is like the backup QB stuff we did for years. Turns out Ricki Stanzi sucked too. Same deal here.

Reid has tried a lot of shit in the running game, and if RoJo was an option, he'd have tried that too.

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Well, we did win.

But that doesn't change the fact that we have some problems that need addressing.
Yeah, we won a game we had no business winning. Their defense (and cocksucking Clete) performed really well and should have won that. But Mahomes did Mahomes things and their going home and looking in the mirror wondering WTF?

They'll probably be fine, and they'll probably win the south and they'll probably give someone (hopefully not us) fits in the playoffs.

IMO, the answer to the question, is scheming up RBs in the flat. Reid was absolutely disgusting at that in Philly. I understand we don't have Brian Westbrook, but McKinnon is ****ing good and Pacheco can get it. Plus CEH's best plays have come in space.

I'm a ****ing moron, but that's what I'd like to see against these type teams.

Check that. I'd like to see A MOTHER****ING FLAG ON AT LEAST THE MOST BLATANT INTERFERENCE. But that's another matter.
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Old 11-07-2022, 09:22 AM   #13
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We threw the ball on 70+ passing attempts. If the dude can't or won't block, it ain't happening man. This is like the backup QB stuff we did for years. Turns out Ricki Stanzi sucked too. Same deal here.

Reid has tried a lot of shit in the running game, and if RoJo was an option, he'd have tried that too.



Yeah, we won a game we had no business winning. Their defense (and cocksucking Clete) performed really well and should have won that. But Mahomes did Mahomes things and their going home and looking in the mirror wondering WTF?

They'll probably be fine, and they'll probably win the south and they'll probably give someone (hopefully not us) fits in the playoffs.

IMO, the answer to the question, is scheming up RBs in the flat. Reid was absolutely disgusting at that in Philly. I understand we don't have Brian Westbrook, but McKinnon is ****ing good and Pacheco can get it. Plus CEH's best plays have come in space.

I'm a ****ing moron, but that's what I'd like to see against these type teams.

Check that. I'd like to see A MOTHER****ING FLAG ON AT LEAST THE MOST BLATANT INTERFERENCE. But that's another matter.
It's just puzzling on rojo. If he was a liability in pass coverage we should have released him. Even more puzzling Reid specifically said they're going to get him involved. If I'm being optimistic it's that they're optimistic he can improve on pass pro. But given hes a vet I'm skeptical.

If it's an ongoing issue I just don't understand keeping him on the roster.

I do think pass pro issues aside rojo fills a spot that our other RBs can't. He is a north south power runner and I don't think any of our other guys are that guy. He wouldn't have dominated yesterday but I think he would've fared much better. Purely as a runner.
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Old 11-07-2022, 09:41 AM   #14
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Dude had a 500 yards of total offense while forcing it to two guys. I'm confused on whether he sucked or not. I already had it in my mind that this was another afc south loss and sure enough he made this game harder than it should have been with his tunnel vision and missing throws. He was definitely panicked last night
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Old 11-07-2022, 09:56 AM   #15
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I think people are overreacting about the running game. It was non-existent last night, but that was probably the best run defense in the league.

More often than not, the rushing offense has been okay this year. Against Tampa, it was great.
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