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Old 09-19-2004, 04:55 PM  
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In a post game interview, it was clear that Gunther is starting to realize the mountain he's faced with climbing.

He talked about how they practiced the plays Carolina ran all week, and practiced the exact short pass play that Denver and Carolina both scored on. But the guys just keep making the same mistakes. He also threw McCleon under the bus...keep your eye out for Bartee in the starting line-up soon. Talked about how poorly our secondary played (#44 being the one bright spot). Also mentioned the shitfull tackling.

It's obvious that our guys in the defensive backfield suck. Barber is non-existent. Mitchell and Beisel both over-commit on every misdirection play. Our safeties are soft, and can't hit or tackle. McCleon is not suited to be a starter at this point.

The tackling is fucking brutal. How hard is it to teach these guys to wrap up? Why do we never lay good hits? Why does our entire secondary stand and watch when we get the QB in trouble? This defense isn't getting better. Until we can cover downfield, all the QB pressure in the world won't save us (as Delhomme demonstrated).

I was wrong. It's not the scheme. It's the players.
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Old 09-19-2004, 09:10 PM   #46
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I would hope that he wouldn't bench McCleon for one bad game. Who on the bench is better?
The bench.
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Old 09-19-2004, 09:11 PM   #47
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Gun is gonna get about 15 minutes of sleep a night now.
Even after the INT, he lookes as nervous as a guy could.
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Old 09-19-2004, 09:14 PM   #48
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Somewhere, GROB is laughing his ass off right now.
Yeah, I was laughing my ass off on that one play where Foster ran to the left, and who was it, rather than try to tackle him he turned his back to him.
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Old 09-19-2004, 09:17 PM   #49
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I hope the Chiefs bench McCleon in favor of McKenzie of the Packers.
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Old 09-19-2004, 09:22 PM   #50
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I hope the Chiefs bench McCleon in favor of McKenzie of the Packers.
Not sure if Green Bay signed a new contract or not, but McKenzie played for Green Bay today
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Old 09-19-2004, 09:37 PM   #51
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I would agree that McCleon didn't have a good week this week, but I thought he played pretty well last week. And while he got run over on some plays, at least he was in position to make them.
I think Dexter's shoulder is bothering him more than he's leading everyone to believe. It's obvious something is wrog. Time to switch with Bartee IMO.
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Old 09-19-2004, 09:53 PM   #52
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I can't believe we are calling for Burntee to start! What has this team came too!

What the hell make old stiff neck earn his pay!
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Old 09-19-2004, 09:55 PM   #53
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Old 09-19-2004, 09:56 PM   #54
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Bartee has actually played pretty well so far this year. I haven't seen him getting smoked down the field. I have no problems with him starting.
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Old 09-19-2004, 10:06 PM   #55
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The talent isn't there on the DLINE at all, we have no pass rusher.

You must have watched a different game than me. We had a good pass rush all day, and Delhomme was hit a bunch of times. The problem was our secondary didn't show up, which gave Delhomme the opportunity to make a play even with the pass rush.
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Old 09-19-2004, 10:12 PM   #56
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You must have watched a different game than me. We had a good pass rush all day, and Delhomme was hit a bunch of times. The problem was our secondary didn't show up, which gave Delhomme the opportunity to make a play even with the pass rush.
Actually, I thought the LB's played worse than our secondary, if you can believe it. IMO, we have only 1 LB with above average talent and that's Fuj - 1 LB with average talent who makes below averge playes many times and that's Barber - the rest are below average who would not be considered solid depth on most rosters. Just my take...
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Old 09-19-2004, 10:28 PM   #57
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The offense played terrible. It is hard for the Defense to play good if the offense is sucking a**
If the offense has another bad showing at Texas heads should roll hopefully
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Old 09-19-2004, 11:26 PM   #58
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So let's see, while we lowly fans have been saying for a few YEARS now that we need to go out and find us a real cornerback and some real linebackers and a real pass rusher and a run stopper in the middle, it takes a coach who is gitting paid over a million a year an entire offseason, an entire preseason, and two games into the season to figure it out? And this is the guy who is supposed to turn around our defense?

This is why Gunther sucked as a head coach. He has no sense of evaluation. And DV, God bless his kind soul, but he thinks everyone is the greatest football player in the world. SCREW THAT! AND SCREW YOU CARL PETERSON FOR SITTING ON YOUR FAT ASS ALL OFFSEASON WHILE EVERYONE ELSE GOT BETTER. We are getting what we deserve now. Actually we fans deserve much better. But the freaking people running this team are just getting their asses handed to them for being lazy in the offseason...
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Old 09-19-2004, 11:38 PM   #59
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So let's see, while we lowly fans have been saying for a few YEARS now that we need to go out and find us a real cornerback and some real linebackers and a real pass rusher and a run stopper in the middle, it takes a coach who is gitting paid over a million a year an entire offseason, an entire preseason, and two games into the season to figure it out? And this is the guy who is supposed to turn around our defense?

This is why Gunther sucked as a head coach. He has no sense of evaluation. And DV, God bless his kind soul, but he thinks everyone is the greatest football player in the world. SCREW THAT! AND SCREW YOU CARL PETERSON FOR SITTING ON YOUR FAT ASS ALL OFFSEASON WHILE EVERYONE ELSE GOT BETTER. We are getting what we deserve now. Actually we fans deserve much better. But the freaking people running this team are just getting their asses handed to them for being lazy in the offseason...




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Old 09-19-2004, 11:40 PM   #60
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Honestly, I just don't know anymore. We aren't ever going to do anything right. We sign FA's with solid track records... Morton, Barber, Holliday... they don't live up to the billing. Nobody likes them. Draft picks, they don't work. I mean look at all these teams that draft well and create a good defense... look at those Panthers today, they drafted pretty much that entire starting defense. Look at the teams that stand pat... look at Indy, they did less than the Chiefs did, they don't have a problem with it. They might be 2-0 with wins on the road at Tennessee and New England if they don't turn the ball over on offense in the red zone against NE more than once. They actually lost three starters, and they plug young draft picks in and get it to work. They lose Mike Peterson, Marcus Washington, Bratzke, Walt Harris over the years... it doesn't matter, they find new guys to get it done. They obviously aren't a great defense, but they play good enough and often are at least clutch enough to make a big play. In the playoff game last year one of the big key plays might have been Priest's fumble. And then today, the Titans were about to take the lead and Nick Harper makes a great INT. Maybe that's why I don't buy into all the "gotta have FA's to succeed" hype... I can sit here and watch a team that's doing nothing but bankrupting itself into the ground to keep a couple star players continue to draft well and improve with good coaching. It can be done...
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