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Old 10-12-2005, 01:42 PM  
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The New Ipods
Ugh, I just got a new one a month ago.

These new ones look very nice.

http://www.apple.com/ipod/ipod.html
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:15 PM   #61
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Just like what was mentioned about the way it hooks up to the car, it's just a cable that plugs in. Same as hooking up audio to any audio receiver. The iPod or Creative player or whatever you choose just plugs in to the audio input and you're done. So your argument of having a wide variety of products to choose from is obsolete. You can get any of those products with a different MP3 player as well.
And I can plug my Mac into any Unix machine and it works fine in a network, right?

I mean, USB/USBII/ethernet are all the same? Right?...
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:17 PM   #62
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MARKET...is the key word here. It's all about marketing. You can use the same damn cables/adapters to hook up almost any other MP3 player with any audio receiver.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:19 PM   #63
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MARKET...is the key word here. It's all about marketing. You can use the same damn cables/adapters to hook up almost any other MP3 player with any audio receiver.
No, you can't.

Recievers are set up to recognize specific products/signals/devices.

My digital camera has the same USB connections any other camera has but only a few models work with OSX.

Same connections, limited compatibility...
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:20 PM   #64
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And I can plug my Mac into any Unix machine and it works fine in a network, right?

I mean, USB/USBII/ethernet are all the same? Right?...
Please tell me you're kidding and you're really not that stupid. Audio inputs are one thing, USB, Ethernet, etc. are something entirely different.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:22 PM   #65
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:23 PM   #66
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No, you can't.

Recievers are set up to recognize specific products/signals/devices.

My digital camera has the same USB connections any other camera has but only a few models work with OSX.

Same connections, limited compatibility...
I'm confused by this statement. Only a few models what...the cam's or the cables? If certain digi cam models won't work on OSX I highly doubt it's the USB cable that's the problem. USB is USB. It'll work. If not then that's just another Apple limitation.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:24 PM   #67
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MARKET...is the key word here. It's all about marketing. You can use the same damn cables/adapters to hook up almost any other MP3 player with any audio receiver.
You are forgetting the functionality part. Kinda plays a role here.

We are talking about integrating the music player into the system. No other player can integrate like the iPod can. Not because the iPod is special, but because companies know the iPod is the market leader, they make their system adapt to it.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:25 PM   #69
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You are forgetting the functionality part. Kinda plays a role here.

We are talking about integrating the music player into the system. No other player can integrate like the iPod can. Not because the iPod is special, but because companies know the iPod is the market leader, they make their system adapt to it.
I see no difference in functionality. The implementation of the iPod into an audio systems consists of audio cables of some sort. You can use those same cables with any other MP3 player. You give me a device that says it works with an iPod and I'd bet that same device will play almost any other MP3 player just as easily.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:28 PM   #70
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If not then that's just another Apple limitation.
Just like their product specific display hookups their putting on the back of their systems now, forcing you to purchase one of their insanly priced Apple displays.

I'll give credit to Apple. Somehow they know how to get people to buy their shit and that's great for them. I just don't understand us Americans sometimes. We're strange.
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I see no difference in functionality. The implementation of the iPod into an audio systems consists of audio cables of some sort. You can use those same cables with any other MP3 player. You give me a device that says it works with an iPod and I'd bet that same device will play almost any other MP3 player just easily.
Please refer to post #59. I'll bet you can't connect a Rio (or any other MP3 player) to the iPod connector that is used to make that functionality happen. It isn't a simple mini-plug we are talking about here. It is a connection that transmits more than the music.
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USB is USB. It'll work. If not then that's just another Apple limitation.
Unfortunately, that's exactly what it is.

Sony makes a bazillion digital cameras and camcorders but only about 1/5th work with OSX/OSX apps.

Don't ask me why...
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Just like their product specific display hookups their putting on the back of their systems now, forcing you to purchase one of their insanly priced Apple displays.

I'll give credit to Apple. Somehow they know how to get people to buy their shit and that's great for them. I just don't understand us Americans sometimes. We're strange.
Oh yeah... that crazy DVI connection.
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Oh yeah... that crazy DVI connection.
No, it's not just a DVI. I think I may have had that backwards. I just remember at Dealexpress (so I can quit saying that liquidation place I worked at) we always had to leave a Mac up and running so we could test all the Cinema displays. It may have been that the displays would only plug into a Mac, not that you couldn't use the Mac w/o the cinema display.
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I don't understand why everybody gets iPod's when you can get a Creative Labs MP3 player that looks exactly like an iPod for $100 cheaper.
You get what you pay for?
Knockoff's are for cheapskates and/or geeks?
It's the marketing, stupid.
If "Creative" is in their name then why didn't they come up with it first?
They're chick magnets, dude.
I own stock in Apple.
I prefer to reward innovation and design than a "look a-like"?
Those people in the commercial look like they're having fun.
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