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Old 02-18-2006, 04:17 PM  
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Looking for a new car..

I've gotten sick of the car I have and am looking for an SUV.

If I can find a buyer, I should get around 13 grand for my car.

Does anyone have any recommendations on a decent SUV?

I'm looking for value, gas miledge, solid performance.

I liked the Pontiac Torrent, but too pricey right now. I'd like to only spend around 15 grand.

Thanks for any help.
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:13 AM   #61
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(im only 22 yo)
Come back and talk to me in another 22 years. You have no idea what the real world is yet nor the implications of your actions on your fellow Americans.
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:14 AM   #62
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to hell they will...THEY DONT WANT HIROSHIMA PART DUEX!
Sorry to burst your bubble junior but they are. What's ironic about it is the fact that they are using YOUR dollars to make the purchase.

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Old 02-19-2006, 12:15 AM   #63
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Yep, it may be kind of deep for someone who only thinks ahead about there trade in value. I am living a pretty good life right now because of generations before us that thought about the future of this country.
This is getting comical-Skip will be along soon to join your team with his Yellow Jap Bastard post. Why are just talking about cars-how about China and what they are doing? Please you guys probably have 20 foreign products just in the room you are sitting in, but yet talk about "Made in the USA" crap-which is a slogan created by an american company getting outpreformed by competition.

I can almost hear "God Bless America" playing as I read your post. Or is that "Like a Rock" by Bob Segar-which describes perfectly what the value of American cars do-sink like a rock.
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:15 AM   #64
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Come back and talk to me in another 22 years. You have no idea what the real world is yet nor the implications of your actions on your fellow Americans.

ill be sure to keep in touch , by then "king" carl will be gone and our beloved chiefs owned by mitsobishi motors( ) will have won 4-5 suber bowls
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:16 AM   #65
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Actually looking it up it is #2 in the world and #1 in European JD Power 2005 Initial Quality Study.

It is number 1 now for 2 years running in sales satisfaction by JD Power.

Sounds like the Big Blue Oval ownership has righted the ship at that company.
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:17 AM   #66
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Mine is a 2000. Bought it used 4 years ago. The only thing I've done besides routine mintanence is have to replace the fuel pump.

Count yourself very lucky!
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:17 AM   #67
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This is getting comical-Skip will be along soon to join your team with his Yellow Jap Bastard post. Why are just talking about cars-how about China and what they are doing? Please you guys probably have 20 foreign products just in the room you are sitting in, but yet talk about "Made in the USA" crap-which is a slogan created by an american company getting outpreformed by competition.

I can almost hear "God Bless America" playing as I read your post. Or is that "Like a Rock" by Bob Segar-which describes perfectly what the value of American cars do-sink like a rock.
No one here is saying they buy American exclusively. Hell, that's impossible in this day and age. What we ARE saying is that our MAJOR PURCHASES (that would be thousands upon thousands of dollars) are AMERICAN MADE PURCHASES.

Try and keep up with the conversation instead of making false accusations and posting half truths.
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:19 AM   #68
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have a good night folks, got to go to sleep im a bit under the weather , and i got to be up to go to work at my mothers arcade that we just opened up for business today
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:20 AM   #69
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I've gotten sick of the car I have and am looking for an SUV.

If I can find a buyer, I should get around 13 grand for my car.

Does anyone have any recommendations on a decent SUV?

I'm looking for value, gas miledge, solid performance.

I liked the Pontiac Torrent, but too pricey right now. I'd like to only spend around 15 grand.

Thanks for any help.
I had a QX4, but traded it in for a Nissan Armada. My wife drives a FX-35. In the price range you are looking. I like the Saturn,"VUE". Or even Hyundai's SUV.
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:20 AM   #70
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have a good night folks, got to go to sleep im a bit under the weather , and i got to be up to go to work at my mothers arcade that we just opened up for business today
Aren't most arcade games made in ... JAPAN!!!???

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Old 02-19-2006, 12:23 AM   #71
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This is getting comical-Skip will be along soon to join your team with his Yellow Jap Bastard post. Why are just talking about cars-how about China and what they are doing? Please you guys probably have 20 foreign products just in the room you are sitting in, but yet talk about "Made in the USA" crap-which is a slogan created by an american company getting outpreformed by competition.

I can almost hear "God Bless America" playing as I read your post. Or is that "Like a Rock" by Bob Segar-which describes perfectly what the value of American cars do-sink like a rock.

You do not have enough bandwith for me to get started on my China discussion. I am afraid the horse is pretty much out of the barn on that one. Automotive and Medical are pretty much that last frontier for us to protect. Automotive due to logistics and Medical due proprietary information protection.
As far as my purchases, I make a concerted effort, without as much success as I would like to buy domestic. Last summer I went to five part stores trying to buy an American made brake rotor, with no luck. I did end up buying a Raybestos, American owned product.
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:23 AM   #72
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No one here is saying they buy American exclusively. Hell, that's impossible in this day and age. What we ARE saying is that our MAJOR PURCHASES (that would be thousands upon thousands of dollars) are AMERICAN MADE PURCHASES.

Try and keep up with the conversation instead of making false accusations and posting half truths.
So in your theory-a "Major" purchase should be made on a product that provides the worst posible investment and will cost you more on maintence, depreciation, and overall value. Makes sense to me.

So you would buy a house- that was going to have a leaky roof, bad plumbing, cracking basement, and will drain your bank account-because it was "American" made?
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:24 AM   #73
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Aren't most arcade games made in ... JAPAN!!!???

i thaught taiwan , its more like a billiards room with some arcade games
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:26 AM   #74
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So in your theory-a "Major" purchase should be made on a product that provides the worst posible investment and will cost you more on maintence, depreciation, and overall value. Makes sense to me.

So you would buy a house- that was going to have a leaky roof, bad plumbing, cracking basement, and will drain your bank account-because it was "American" made?
Do you even read any of my posts or just pick out the parts you want to attack?
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The only MAJOR work I've had done on my Chevy is replacing a radiator. Oh ... and it's got 170,000+ miles on it and it runs like a top. It's all about the owner and how they treat their cars, not the car itself.
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:29 AM   #75
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You do not have enough bandwith for me to get started on my China discussion. I am afraid the horse is pretty much out of the barn on that one. Automotive and Medical are pretty much that last frontier for us to protect. Automotive due to logistics and Medical due proprietary information protection.
As far as my purchases, I make a concerted effort, without as much success as I would like to buy domestic. Last summer I went to five part stores trying to buy an American made brake rotor, with no luck. I did end up buying a Raybestos, American owned product.

Sorry to burst your bubble on medical, but India is leading the world. As far as auto purchases-many only buy American because like Luv, that is all they can afford. Folks with money can get the best investment for their money by getting the best product-which is foreign. We lost the car war along time ago.

Mexicans own more property in USA than Japs, so why do they get such a bad rap? Do I really care if some rich asshole that owns a building in NY is a Jap-nope.
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