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raybec 4 · 01-30-2009, 09:15 AM

UFC 94 should be decent. GSP vs BJ Penn should be a very good fight. I will be rooting for Penn. I think if BJ can keep from getting gassed he could win. He's always had problems with his cardio at 170 though. Lyoto Machida vs Thiago Silva should be a great fight. I personally like the way Silva fights but Machida's manner and attitude so it will be a pick 'em for me.

raybec 4 · 01-30-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigVE

I can see both sides to this argument and it will only be settled in the ring. GSP is favored because he is the current champ, is at his NORMAL weight and vegas KNOWS everyone will be betting on him.

For the record I said Randy would beat Lesnar and Nog would beat Mir and Forrest would beat Rashad so I'm thinking of giving up on the predicting and just rooting for who I like.

jidar · 01-30-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigVE

Here is my take on GSP vs. Penn: it's about as even a matchup you get in MMA. I feel that if they fought 10 times it would probably be 5-5 or 6-4. I guess for my money GSP will be the favorite because of him being a more natural 170lb'er and he has made great strides in his skills since the last time these two fought. Benn is a world class jits guy but GSP's skills are really under-rated. Penn showed in his last fight that he can stay standing up and still win with some excellent boxing type skills but I would give the edge standing up to GSP. There is NO WAY this fight goes the distance in my opinion. None. I'm a GSP fan as well as a Penn fan but I favor GSP so the perfect scenario for me is for GSP to submit Penn, the jiu-jistu master.

GSP's skills are underrated? That's an awfully strange thing to say about a guy who routinely makes peoples "best lb for lb fighters" lists. In fact my top 4 looks like this:

1: Fedor
2: Anderson Silva
3: BJ Penn
4: GSP

and depending on the day of the week the order of that list changes but it's still the same 4 fighters.

Okay so given that BJ and GSP are both on the top 4 best lb for lb the smart pick in this heads up match is GSP because he's bigger.

BigVE · 01-30-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jidar

GSP's skills are underrated? That's an awfully strange thing to say about a guy who routinely makes peoples "best lb for lb fighters" lists. In fact my top 4 looks like this:

1: Fedor
2: Anderson Silva
3: BJ Penn
4: GSP

and depending on the day of the week that list changes.

Okay so given that BJ and GSP are both on the top 4 best lb for lb the smart pick in this heads up match is GSP because he's bigger.

Yes, until RECENTLY. Before he beat Hughes his wrestling was called into question. He trained with some of the best in the world and sharpened his skills and beat Hughes at his own game and then some. GSP is not considered a jits-guy really, he is not a blackbelt like Penn yet he is almost impossible to pin/submit. YET, like you said, he is considered OVERALL one the best pound for pound fighters in the world. You tell me. Once he has Penn tapping out for mercy there will be NO MORE doubting his skills.

jidar · 01-30-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigVE

Yes, until RECENTLY. Before he beat Hughes his wrestling was called into question. He trained with some of the best in the world and sharpened his skills and beat Hughes at his own game and then some. GSP is not considered a jits-guy really, he is not a blackbelt like Penn yet he is almost impossible to pin/submit. YET, like you said, he is considered OVERALL one the best pound for pound fighters in the world. You tell me. Once he has Penn tapping out for mercy there will be NO MORE doubting his skills.

Well when he first beat Hughes it was quite awhile ago. I just really don't think very many people are underrating GSPs skill. I think the consensus is that he's at the top of the game in all aspects and generally thought of as one of the most well rounded fighters in mma.

ArrowheadHawk · 01-30-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

For the record I said Randy would beat Lesnar and Nog would beat Mir and Forrest would beat Rashad so I'm thinking of giving up on the predicting and just rooting for who I like.

Funny that is one of the only times I had picked all the fights right.

Jerm · 01-30-2009, 05:30 PM

GSP is a JJ black belt...he got it not too long ago.

I wanna how his guard would be with a world class JJ guy like Penn on top...that would be interesting IMO.

Valiant · 01-30-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poz

GSP has to be one of the classiest MMA fighters out there. The only reason you guys are looking for something bad to say against him is that you're worried and know he's gonna clean the mat with Penn.
The scary thing about GSP is that his defense is actually better than his offense. Penn will looking for that home-run hit during the whole fight until George takes him down and breaks his arm.

GSP in the 2nd.

Yeah, GSP is an amazing fighter.. Penn is cool to, but I just want to see an amazing bloodbrawl and GSP knocking him out in the second or third..

ArrowheadHawk · 01-30-2009, 09:01 PM

It sure should be fun to watch.

**KcMizzou** · 01-30-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

It sure should be fun to watch.

Yep, between this and the Super Bowl, it's gonna be a hell of a sports weekend.

The Poz · 01-31-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Yep, between this and the Super Bowl, it's gonna be a hell of a sports weekend.

For sure. I was at the Raptors/Bucks game last night (7th row - amazing seats), UFC tonight with all the boys then start again mid afternoon Sunday for the Superbowl. I think I'll have to call in sick Monday.

jspchief · 01-31-2009, 11:58 AM

GSP is hard to like. It doesn't help that he wears those gay shorts.

But the other problem is he's often boring. He reminds me of the boxer Lennox Lewis. He does everything right, and systematically tears down his opponent, but it's no fun watching 12 rounds of jabs to a win by decision.

GSP's defense is so good that he rarely gets into interesting spots on the ground, and his stand-up is technically solid, but lacks much entertainment value. He doesn't take risks or make many mistakes, and the end result is a big yawn.

I won't knock the guy's ability, but he lacks entertainment value. Personally I hope Penn knock him stiff, but odds are it will be another snoozer like the first.

BigVE · 01-31-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

GSP is hard to like. It doesn't help that he wears those gay shorts.

But the other problem is he's often boring. He reminds me of the boxer Lennox Lewis. He does everything right, and systematically tears down his opponent, but it's no fun watching 12 rounds of jabs to a win by decision.

GSP's defense is so good that he rarely gets into interesting spots on the ground, and his stand-up is technically solid, but lacks much entertainment value. He doesn't take risks or make many mistakes, and the end result is a big yawn.

I won't knock the guy's ability, but he lacks entertainment value. Personally I hope Penn knock him stiff, but odds are it will be another snoozer like the first.

You lost all credibility with me with this statement. Did you not see GSP destroy Matt Serra?? What about his last fight? What about the utter humiliation of Matt Hughes? Your clueless.

BigVE · 01-31-2009, 08:47 PM

It's almost fight time. This is a very good card.

chop · 01-31-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigVE

You lost all credibility with me with this statement. Did you not see GSP destroy Matt Serra?? What about his last fight? What about the utter humiliation of Matt Hughes? Your clueless.

I agree. GSP is far from a boring fighter. He has knocked out several fighters.

chop · 01-31-2009, 09:39 PM

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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	GSP is hard to like. It doesn't help that he wears those gay shorts. But the other problem is he's often boring. He reminds me of the boxer Lennox Lewis. He does everything right, and systematically tears down his opponent, but it's no fun watching 12 rounds of jabs to a win by decision. GSP's defense is so good that he rarely gets into interesting spots on the ground, and his stand-up is technically solid, but lacks much entertainment value. He doesn't take risks or make many mistakes, and the end result is a big yawn. I won't knock the guy's ability, but he lacks entertainment value. Personally I hope Penn knock him stiff, but odds are it will be another snoozer like the first. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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