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Old 03-25-2009, 09:11 AM   Topic Starter
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Curt Schilling Retires -- is he a HOFer?
So Curt Schilling officially retired earlier this week. Is he a Hall of Famer in your mind, or not?

The stats:

216 wins (light for a HOFer, it's like 80th all-time)
146 losses
.596 Winning Percentage
No Cy Young Awards. Came in 2nd 3 times, and 4th once.
6 All Star Appearances
3.47 ERA
ERA +/- is a whopping +127
3116 strikeouts (15th all time)
11-2 record in playoffs with a 2.23 ERA in 19 starts
3 World Series rings
20 game winner 3 times
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An ungodly K/BB ratio.

It's a close call. The stats alone point to "no", but I keep coming back to two things -- first that he isn't tainted by steroids, and second that there are damn few pitchers over the last 15 years that someone would want starting Game 7 of a World Series over Schilling.
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:14 AM   #2
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If we include public relations, he's a unanimous HOFer.


Baseball-wise, probably.
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:14 AM   #3
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:19 AM   #4
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:22 AM   #5
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Not before Blyleven. He can't get in and trumps just about all of Schilling's stats.
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:26 AM   #6
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Not before Blyleven. He can't get in and trumps just about all of Schilling's stats.
Agreed. I tend to think that Mussina deserves a look before Schilling, as well. Mussina played in the toughest division in baseball his entire career and racked up 280 wins. He always seemed to get the best of Pedro Martinez when they went head to head.
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:35 AM   #7
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Mussina played in the toughest division in baseball his entire career and racked up 280 wins.
he also played on the team that won the most, regardless of division. it makes sense he has a lot of wins.
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he also played on the team that won the most, regardless of division. it makes sense he has a lot of wins.
He played 10 seasons with BALTIMORE and 8 seasons with the Yankees.
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He played 10 seasons with BALTIMORE and 8 seasons with the Yankees.
true, I'm probably just stuck on my hatred of the yankees. that's probably also why I want Schill in the HOF - he was the perfect yankee killer.

wasn't Baltimore good for several of those years? I didn't follow baseball back then.
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he also played on the team that won the most, regardless of division. it makes sense he has a lot of wins.

Mussina was a much more consistent pitcher than Schilling.

Also, you're forgetting that Mussina pitched on some really bad Orioles teams.
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Mussina was a much more consistent pitcher than Schilling.

Also, you're forgetting that Mussina pitched on some really bad Orioles teams.
eh. The Orioles were average most of his years with them. Of course, he helped MAKE them average...

I think Mussina is pretty clearly in, however. I also can't quite fathom the Blyleven thing.

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he also played on the team that won the most, regardless of division. it makes sense he has a lot of wins.
Not when he played for the Orioles. And he had to pitch against the likes of New York, Toronto, and Boston in their heydays.
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Not before Blyleven. He can't get in and trumps just about all of Schilling's stats.
They both need in.

I can not believe Blyleven has not made it yet.
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Not before Blyleven. He can't get in and trumps just about all of Schilling's stats.
I'm OK with both. Blyleven had such a nasty breaking ball. There must be something in the woodpile that is keeping him out.
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