Movies that don’t get respect??

[HC_Chief]

Originally Posted by Slainte

You *do* know that a good half of the western world praises this movie to the skies, don't you?...

Perhaps you're not entirely clear on the definition of the word "respect"...

Never seen it "praised to the skies". It is typically hidden in the "bizarre" section in video stores. When referring to Kubrick, it's typically 2001 (technically amzing but boring) or that godawful tom Cruise/Kidman abortion.

It is labeled as a "cult classic" by most. That puts it in the same category as Evil Dead series. To the majority of typical movie watchers, my bet is it doesn't even rank in the top 100.

To me, that means it is not receiving the respect it deserves. The most probable cause is the content; it is too "icky" and "graphic" and "horrifying" for your run of the mill mouthbreathers.

[Slainte]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Never seen it "praised to the skies". It is typically hidden in the "bizarre" section in video stores. When referring to Kubrick, it's typically 2001 (technically amzing but boring) or that godawful tom Cruise/Kidman abortion.

It is labeled as a "cult classic" by most. That puts it in the same category as Evil Dead series. To the majority of typical movie watchers, my bet is it doesn't even rank in the top 100.

To me, that means it is not receiving the respect it deserves. The most probable cause is the content; it is too "icky" and "graphic" and "horrifying" for your run of the mill mouthbreathers.

No. Wrong. Seriously, do some research...outside of your local yokel video store.

[HC_Chief]

Originally Posted by Slainte

No. Wrong. Seriously, do some research...outside of your local yokel video store.

Mmm'kay.... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=A+Clockwork+Orange

The majority rail on about "futuristic dystopian orgy of sex and violence"; again, right to the root of my argument: it is loved by a subset (thus "cult classic") but generally diregarded as an ode to ultraviolence. See Roger Ebert's review: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...202110301/1023

The author of the novel upon which it is based said the same things! He railed on how the world was misinterpretting his work, "The book I am best known for, or only known for, is a novel I am prepared to repudiate: written a quarter of a century ago, a jeu d'esprit knocked off for money in three weeks, it became known as the raw material for a film which seemed to glorify sex and violence. The film made it easy for readers of the book to misunderstand what it was about, and the misunderstanding will pursue me till I die." (per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange)

You must be a fan too; we're in a cult. Heh.

[rad]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Never seen it "praised to the skies". It is typically hidden in the "bizarre" section in video stores. When referring to Kubrick, it's typically 2001 (technically amzing but boring) or that godawful tom Cruise/Kidman abortion.

It is labeled as a "cult classic" by most. That puts it in the same category as Evil Dead series. To the majority of typical movie watchers, my bet is it doesn't even rank in the top 100.

To me, that means it is not receiving the respect it deserves. The most probable cause is the content; it is too "icky" and "graphic" and "horrifying" for your run of the mill mouthbreathers.

It's #47

http://www.imdb.com/chart/top?tt0066921

#46 here


AFI
Recognition:

100 YEARS…100 MOVIES #46
100 YEARS…100 THRILLS #21
100 YEARS…100 HEROES & VILLAINS #12
100 YEARS…100 MOVIES – 10TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION #70

[HC_Chief]

Originally Posted by rad

It's #47

http://www.imdb.com/chart/top?tt0066921

#46 here


AFI
Recognition:

100 YEARS…100 MOVIES #46
100 YEARS…100 THRILLS #21
100 YEARS…100 HEROES & VILLAINS #12
100 YEARS…100 MOVIES – 10TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION #70

Higher than I expected. Still, imdb and AFI = subset; typically more hardcore movie fanatics.

I put it much higher on technical attributes alone. It is visually stunning. The framing is superb (that's a Kubrick trademark), and the visceral execution of horrific acts of violence juxtaposed with Beethoven set a mood unrivaled by anyone other than Hitchcock. Alex was simultaneously protagonist and antagonist.... that's no small feat!

As I said before, I think it lacks the respect it deserves (IMO) due to subject matter. The same applies for two of my favorite movies, which do receive tons of respect: Alien and The Exorcist. While highly regarded in both cases, many critics and fans write them off for being sci-fi/horror films, as if that genre was undeserving of critical analysis and acceptance. If you take each of those films, disregard subject matter, you will find them to be brilliantly filmed, edited, scripted, blocked, framed, and acted, with phenomenal scoring. The set design in Alien played nearly as big a role as the actors... and it was phenomenal!

[CosmicPal]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

It is labeled as a "cult classic" by most. That puts it in the same category as Evil Dead series. To the majority of typical movie watchers, my bet is it doesn't even rank in the top 100.

To me, that means it is not receiving the respect it deserves. The most probable cause is the content; it is too "icky" and "graphic" and "horrifying" for your run of the mill mouthbreathers.

It is a cult classic, however, it is also regarded by the film industry as one of the best movies.

Even IMDB users seem to agree by placing it in the top 50: http://www.imdb.com/chart/top

[Demonpenz]

Tigerland

[KJROD20]

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AI

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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II - secret of the ooze

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Groundhog Day.

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Tigerland

yes, yes, yes, and yes. I'll add:

Eyes Wide Shut - gets lost under Clockwork, 2001, Shining, etc., but it's really good, even though most people think it's slow.
American Splendor - not sure if people actually watched this, but i loved it
Bad Santa - one of my favorites, Billy Bob was hilarious
The Game & Panic Room - two underrated Fincher movies

and I'm a sucker for any sports movie: Glory Road, Little Big League, any of the Mighty Ducks, etc.

I could probably go on and on.

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by KJROD20

yes, yes, yes, and yes. I'll add:

Eyes Wide Shut - gets lost under Clockwork, 2001, Shining, etc., but it's really good, even though most people think it's slow.
American Splendor - not sure if people actually watched this, but i loved it
Bad Santa - one of my favorites, Billy Bob was hilarious
The Game & Panic Room - two underrated Fincher movies

and I'm a sucker for any sports movie: Glory Road, Little Big League, any of the Mighty Ducks, etc.

I could probably go on and on.

I love American Splendor that movie is so underappreciated.
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[blaise]

Jacob's Ladder

[Slainte]

Originally Posted by blaise

Jacob's Ladder

THAT...is a good pull for this thread....

Rep.

[rockymtnchief]

Originally Posted by blaise

Jacob's Ladder

I hadn't seen it in quite a while and caught it again a month ago. I still liked it as much as the first time I saw it.

Another flick I like, but don't hear much about from others, is 'Frequency'. Probably because I always wonder what I would do if that kind of situation was presented to me. I'd be telling my dad to bet the house on Buster Douglas and invest it in Microsoft.

[007]

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief

I hadn't seen it in quite a while and caught it again a month ago. I still liked it as much as the first time I saw it.

Another flick I like, but don't hear much about from others, is 'Frequency'. Probably because I always wonder what I would do if that kind of situation was presented to me. I'd be telling my dad to bet the house on Buster Douglas and invest it in Microsoft.

Frequency is my entry into this as well.

[ChiefaRoo]

I always liked this movie - Lost in America. Funny stuff.

[Demonpenz]

A clockwork Orange sucks for the simple fact scenesters and hipsters have to bring it up all the time and wear the dumb outfits and quote the movie all the time making it lame