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**Tribal Warfare** · 04-25-2010, 12:13 AM

I've heard from several sources that there was a heated debate within the Chiefs when the #36 pick came up. Weis was adamant that Classen was the pick. Pioli and Haley still believe that Cassell can be the QB that we need and we can pass on Claussen at that pick. This was Pioli's decision. Pioli's top priorites were playmakers and to add team speed.

The Chiefs were told that Philly was going to pick McCkuster so they pulled the trigger at 2a. The plan was to drat him at 2B.

Many rumors that this is Haley's last year unless there is major improvement not just in the Cheifs record but the locker room and team chemistry. I guess there were a lot of locker room issues last season and that is also what is driving Pioli with the high charector players. Sorry, but I don't know the details, all I know is that there were many issues in the locker room and with team chemistry.

Frankie · 04-25-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Why do people not look at the sack numbers for New England in '06, '07, and '08 and not recognize that, while the O-line here was bad, Cassel was every bit as responsible for that high sack number?

I think he WAS. But I also do subscribe to the fact that NE had a comparable record with him at the helm and last year. Neither are end-all arguments in his favor or against. I really think (hope?) the holding on to the ball too long can be coached out of him. By all accounts he is a dedicated student of the game with good work habits. That's quality number one. You might say then why didn't he learn on the bench in NE. My answer would be no matter how much you "study" you cannot implement what you learn in class on the field unless you actually do it too. Much like learning to drive. You may know exactly what you need to do behind the wheel but you will not do them until you spend some time there. His last year in NE was for all intents and purposes his rookie season. Then he had to face offensive upheavals in his second year without having gained an experienced veteran's savvy. We won't really know until way into the next season what we really have in him. If this all sounds TOO optimistic I admit that I'm trying to be a hopeful fan (with fingers crossed). But I bet that you as a Chiefs fan will agree the very best thing that can happen to the Chiefs is for Cassel to actually develop to be the QB that solves our QB problem, leaving our future draft picks free to use on studs in other positions.

**SAUTO** · 04-25-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

The local media guy that gave me Weis was a done deal and the Berry pick is 2-0 but the rest of the "stuff" I get thats not from "the source" that is sent to me is full of BS and just flat out wrong info. I should buy shares of a salt mine.

so was this from the media guy? or is tw stirrin shit?
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Frankie · 04-25-2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by warpaint*

Next year when we are picking in the same area (how could we not be given the state of the front 7) there should be more QB talent available be it first or second round.

Again, let's hope we won't need any. But I will follow college QBs with keen interest next season.

DTLB58 · 04-25-2010, 11:31 AM

I'm sure there are many heated discussions in the draft rooms, no different than any other NFL team. But then you make the pick and move on.

I don't think Pioli lead Weis to beileve this whole time if you come here and Jimmy is there when we are on the clock I will give you the chance to talk me into to taking him. I just think that is B.S. I think he told him from the start Cassell is our QB that you will be working with do you want the job?

I think people are just upset about the draft right now, I know I am. But I find it funny how supposedly all this info leaks out

Like everyone was able to get the chiefs draft info and mocked all these players they were interested in.

Haley gets 2 years to make it right with all the changes?

aturnis · 04-25-2010, 11:31 AM

The same reason we didn't take any Notre Dame players. Also the same reason why Pete Carroll didn't take Mays. How would the rest of your players react to that? He'd be a good 'ol boy. If Clausen started, it'd be b/c he's Weis's boy, and Clausen is enough of an idiot(not judging him too much, but Brady Quinn had better character and for some reason got his face smashed in) to say the wrong thing when accused of it. It'd be problematic in the locker room.

Frankie · 04-25-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I have been content in the past to say that Pioli and the scouts know more about these players than me. But seriously. How on earth do they have McCluster and Arenas higher on their boards than Clausen, Kindle, Tate, Cody, and Mays. All of these guys had first round talent and would have made an immediate impact.

This.

Frankie · 04-25-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

maube this was put out there because weis likes jimmy as a person but not as a nfl qb./i][/size]

If anything I think it would be the other way around. Let's face it, there WERE increasing revelations of Clausen's alleged immaturity.

Frankie · 04-25-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

and its funny how many hypocrites in this thread,.....

Because it's fun.

Frankie · 04-25-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

Lol every year its "well i didnt see any franchise qbs in this draft, but NEXT YEAR? oh man."

Locker and who else? Luck? Name some so I can start watching them.

**DeezNutz** · 04-25-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Locker and who else? Luck? Name some so I can start watching them.

Locker
Luck
Mallett
Gabbert (maybe)

Frankie · 04-25-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Locker and who else? Luck? Name some so I can start watching them.

Oh I guess I didn't catch your sarcasm, DBOSHO. My bad.

**Iowanian** · 04-25-2010, 11:39 AM

If those players were "first round talent"...why were 31 other teams foolish enough to pass on them?

The fact that the Chiefs, with Weis passed on them should tell you something. They know more than we do.

The fact is, we can all piss and moan about players, but I guarantee there were players last year, and the year before and the year before that fans were upset about being passed on, that have flamed out.

Frankie · 04-25-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

...and Clausen is enough of an idiot(not judging him too much, but Brady Quinn had better character and for some reason got his face smashed in) to say the wrong thing when accused of it. It'd be problematic in the locker room.

"I can't throw'em and catch'em too!"

Frankie · 04-25-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Locker
Luck
Mallett
Gabbert (maybe)

Thanks DN. Right now I don't have much more info on them other than Locker locks on his receivers, Mallett sports a Mullet, Luck might bring us some and Gabbert sounds too French to be a tough minded QB. So based on those deep evaluations, Luck is my front-runner.

**DeezNutz** · 04-25-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Thanks DN. Right now I don't have much more info on them other than Locker locks on his receivers, Mallett sports a Mullet, Luck might bring us some and Gabbert sounds too French to be a tough minded QB. So based on those deep evaluations, Luck is my front-runner.

All would be upgrades to what we have. Gabbert is my front-runner, and I'll be pimping his name incessantly throughout the next calendar year (assuming he declares), but I'd be thrilled to draft any of the four.

04-25-2010, 12:13 AM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2977187	From the friend of our's E-mail I've heard from several sources that there was a heated debate within the Chiefs when the #36 pick came up. Weis was adamant that Classen was the pick. Pioli and Haley still believe that Cassell can be the QB that we need and we can pass on Claussen at that pick. This was Pioli's decision. Pioli's top priorites were playmakers and to add team speed. The Chiefs were told that Philly was going to pick McCkuster so they pulled the trigger at 2a. The plan was to drat him at 2B. Many rumors that this is Haley's last year unless there is major improvement not just in the Cheifs record but the locker room and team chemistry. I guess there were a lot of locker room issues last season and that is also what is driving Pioli with the high charector players. Sorry, but I don't know the details, all I know is that there were many issues in the locker room and with team chemistry.
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04-25-2010, 11:31 AM	#64
DTLB58 DT CARD COLLECTOR Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ManCave Casino cash: $10005837	I'm sure there are many heated discussions in the draft rooms, no different than any other NFL team. But then you make the pick and move on. I don't think Pioli lead Weis to beileve this whole time if you come here and Jimmy is there when we are on the clock I will give you the chance to talk me into to taking him. I just think that is B.S. I think he told him from the start Cassell is our QB that you will be working with do you want the job? I think people are just upset about the draft right now, I know I am. But I find it funny how supposedly all this info leaks out Like everyone was able to get the chiefs draft info and mocked all these players they were interested in. Haley gets 2 years to make it right with all the changes? __________________ 667 Different DT cards and counting
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04-25-2010, 11:31 AM	#65
aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	The same reason we didn't take any Notre Dame players. Also the same reason why Pete Carroll didn't take Mays. How would the rest of your players react to that? He'd be a good 'ol boy. If Clausen started, it'd be b/c he's Weis's boy, and Clausen is enough of an idiot(not judging him too much, but Brady Quinn had better character and for some reason got his face smashed in) to say the wrong thing when accused of it. It'd be problematic in the locker room.
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04-25-2010, 11:39 AM	#72
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1678454	If those players were "first round talent"...why were 31 other teams foolish enough to pass on them? The fact that the Chiefs, with Weis passed on them should tell you something. They know more than we do. The fact is, we can all piss and moan about players, but I guarantee there were players last year, and the year before and the year before that fans were upset about being passed on, that have flamed out.
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