Prisco: Re-grading 2007 draft: Three-year look back gives real picture

[T-post Tom]

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Kansas City Chiefs: Grade: B-

They had seven picks and all they have to show for their draft is one starter (receiver Dwayne Bowe) and backup running back Kolby Smith. That's not a good haul. Bowe, the first-round pick, has been a good player. But the Chiefs blew picks on defensive linemen in the second and third rounds; Turk McBride and Tank Tyler are now with other teams. Smith is a solid backup who has started, so he has some value as a fifth-round pick. But that's it.

[L.A. Chieffan]

taking tjax with #3 will end up being piolis jamarcus russell pick

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Just one of the many things that we disagree on.

But, if the Chiefs switched to a 4-3, Tyson Jackson would make a good run stuffing end. You could put him on the strong side and still have a very good starter. He would make a better 4-3 end than Dorsey makes a 3-4 end.

And, Dorsey was taken top five, and we all loved it.

It is ridiculous to say that scheme and system don't matter. As I said, some guys can play any system.... but 75% of the league has their success determined by how well the coaches' system utilizes them.

Give me a ****ing break.

Dorsey's the best athlete on the defensive line and has played out of position for two years running. When he missed the Cleveland game, OOPS, 300+ yards on the ground.

Speaking of yards and ground, I doubt Tyson Jackson has the ability to take care of my front yard.

The guy is THE biggest waste of a first round KC draft pick, bar NONE.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

taking tjax with #3 will end up being piolis jamarcus russell pick

I'd take Russell at 5-tech over Jackson.

At least he could hit someone 52.1% of the time.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Give me a ****ing break.

Dorsey's the best athlete on the defensive line and has played out of position for two years running. When he missed the Cleveland game, OOPS, 300+ yards on the ground.

Speaking of yards and ground, I doubt Tyson Jackson has the ability to take care of my front yard.

The guy is THE biggest waste of a first round KC draft pick, bar NONE.

I don't discount the contribution that Dorsey made. He is a good talent, but isn't being utilized in the manner that most benefits his skill set.

As you said, he is being played out of position. Mainly, because this isn't the scheme he was drafted for. Which, is what my original point was. The way you fit in a scheme is far more important than you originally posted. Now, it seems that you may be beginning to grasp what I was saying.

It is the same with Arenas. He is more valuable to a 3-4 team because he plays the star position perfectly. He could also be the nickel in a 4-3, but his versatility coming on the blitz and playing nickel, and boundary corner fit this system better than he fits a 4-3.

You draft guys that fit 'your' system. That is why teams continue to be successful over time. They find guys that fit.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'd take Russell at 5-tech over Jackson.

At least he could hit someone 52.1% of the time.

Now, that's funny right there... I don't care who you are.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Now, that's funny right there... I don't care who you are.

Neg rep for the Larry the Cable Guy.

(I didn't, but I wouldn't blame anyone who did.)

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Neg rep for the Larry the Cable Guy.

(I didn't, but I wouldn't blame anyone who did.)

I am not his biggest fan, but considering the side that I was arguing... I figure it was apropos.

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Give me a ****ing break.

Dorsey's the best athlete on the defensive line and has played out of position for two years running. When he missed the Cleveland game, OOPS, 300+ yards on the ground.

Speaking of yards and ground, I doubt Tyson Jackson has the ability to take care of my front yard.

The guy is THE biggest waste of a first round KC draft pick, bar NONE.

are you done yet, miss cleo?

You have no idea what kind of player tyson jackson is gonna be 4 years down the road, so wtf are you babbling about? Tyson could have 25 sacks next season, and you would go out of you way to call him a bust. Get over it dude.

Most of your takes are spot on, but when you spit this shit out, you
lose credibility with every post.

Douchnozzle.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...verlist_footer


Kansas City Chiefs: Grade: B-

They had seven picks and all they have to show for their draft is one starter (receiver Dwayne Bowe) and backup running back Kolby Smith. That's not a good haul. Bowe, the first-round pick, has been a good player. But the Chiefs blew picks on defensive linemen in the second and third rounds; Turk McBride and Tank Tyler are now with other teams. Smith is a solid backup who has started, so he has some value as a fifth-round pick. But that's it.

Do not evaluate till they hit their 30's, after all that is the criteria for Cassel.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...verlist_footer


Kansas City Chiefs: Grade: D-

They had seven picks and all they have to show for their draft is one starter (receiver Dwayne Bowe) and backup running back Kolby Smith. That's not a good haul. Bowe, the first-round pick, has been a good player. But the Chiefs blew picks on defensive linemen in the second and third rounds; Turk McBride and Tank Tyler are now with other teams. Smith is a solid backup who has started, so he has some value as a fifth-round pick. But that's it.

Fixed it for you.

[acesn8s]

Wasting top pick after top pick on DL while your QB keeps getting knocked on his ass makes many of the drafts D-. tThis is the first year that the OL has been addressed properly since Roaf left. Since then we have watched Green get knocked out, Huard get bulldozed, Collins run for his life, Croyle end up on IR repeatedly, a Thigpen love affair, Cassel get hurt in a preseason game, and a calling for another QB because it is his fault that he has only 1.8 seconds to throw a pinpoint accurate throw to a WR corp that is a bunch of other teams castoffs. But DAMMIT we need defense!

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DBOSHO

are you done yet, miss cleo?

You have no idea what kind of player tyson jackson is gonna be 4 years down the road, so wtf are you babbling about? Tyson could have 25 sacks next season, and you would go out of you way to call him a bust. Get over it dude.

Most of your takes are spot on, but when you spit this shit out, you
lose credibility with every post.

Douchnozzle.

**** you, ****.

Why the **** should I concern myself with Tyson Jackson in 2014?

THE ****ING GUY WAS TAKEN THIRD OVERALL.

There IS no development. There IS no "waiting" period.

The mother****er who's drafted at THIRD OVERALL should be an IMMEDIATE badass.

Not a project.

Go **** yourself, ****.

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

**** you, ****.

Why the **** should I concern myself with Tyson Jackson in 2014?

THE ****ING GUY WAS TAKEN THIRD OVERALL.

There IS no development. There IS no "waiting" period.

The mother****er who's drafted at THIRD OVERALL should be an IMMEDIATE badass.

Not a project.

Go **** yourself, ****.

do we ever find the cure for cancer?

How bout flying cars, does that ever happen?

What lottery numbers should i pick tomorrow?

[L.A. Chieffan]

i love how people use the hindsight argument.

if we say the pick sucks before he even gets picked and then he goes out and sucks thats not hindsight or being able to predict the future.

its using your brain.

[L.A. Chieffan]

you could actually make the argument that the tjax pick was even worse than the russell pick.