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Old 08-29-2010, 11:12 AM  
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Seems as if Leinart may not be the starter in Arizona. He already has a history with Haley, so picking up our offense should not be difficult for Leinart. Stats so far in pre-season for Leinart are 19-23 for 161 yards and a TD. 110.3 QB ranking.

I know Haley went with Warner over Leinart at the given time he was in Arizona. But I think it is fair to say that Cassel is no Warner. I wonder if Haley would prefer Leinart over Cassel at this point? If so, with Haleys relationship with the Cards appearing to be good, I wonder if there possible trade could be arranged involving players, and not draft picks?

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Old 08-29-2010, 04:53 PM   #61
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Then there's also this:

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=nfl&id=3138

According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, the Cardinals see some "Kurt Warner qualities" in undrafted rookie QB Max Hall.
Hall has a been a "tremendous surprise" outplaying fellow rookie John Skelton throughout camp, and it wouldn't be surprising to see him with a couple of spot starts late in the season. Mort joins NFL Network's Mike Lombardi in speculating that Matt Leinart won't be on the final roster because the Cardinals don't want to lose one of the rookies on waivers.
Yeah, I can't see the Cards going into the season with two rookies backing up Anderson.
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Yeah, I can't see the Cards going into the season with two rookies backing up Anderson.
I think the Cardinals maybe see this as not so much a rebuild but a "retool". They're switching offensive styles and got rid of a few of their expensive stars on defense. It wouldn't be out of the question for them to go this route.

Green Bay backed up Aaron Rodgers' first year as a starter with rookies Matt Flynn and Brian Brohm.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:03 PM   #63
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Haleys job is not on the line with how Matt Cassel plays.

You dont think so?? What if they start off 1-7 again like last year?

Pioli will be around forever, but Haley has to prove this year he can build something. This isnt Bill Parcells we are talking about....its Todd Haley.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:06 PM   #64
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What if they start off 1-7 again like last year?
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:17 PM   #65
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You dont think so?? What if they start off 1-7 again like last year?

Pioli will be around forever, but Haley has to prove this year he can build something. This isnt Bill Parcells we are talking about....its Todd Haley.
I think if they are 1-7 because the whole team sucks Haley might be in trouble. If we are 1-7 only because Cassell sucks I doubt it. Why would they fire Haley because the QB he didn't choose (and probably didn't even want to start) sucks?

This whole "if Cassell sucks Haley will get fired" shit is ridiculous. Just pure speculation. Pioli chose Cassell, not Haley.
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The Cardinals are in the same boat as we are at QB.They're stuck with a bunch of dumpster QB's,and ****ed blind for sitting on Leinart and not bringing in a real life NFL caliber QB.
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Old 08-30-2010, 05:57 AM   #67
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Leinart isn't a fit here either, he's a WCO QB through and through, he's doesn't have Cassel's accuracy problems he just doesn't have the natural arm strength to zip out passes.
I watched the Cards/Bears game. I'm not well versed in all the plays of every offense, but Leinart threw the ball very well. Most passes were not real long throws, but a couple were 10 to 12 yards down field and right on the money. Those types of throws... which we throw as well... would be somewhat reminicant of the WCO, would they not? Plus he looked smooth and confident running the offense, which Cassel does not at all IMO.
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Old 08-30-2010, 08:49 AM   #68
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I like it.
Just the way I see it man. Based on their roster aside from Qb,I could see them making a playoff push.Add in their QB's and I'll be surprised if they win 7 games.Maybe if Anderson settles in and picks his game up they stand a chance. I stand on Leinart being a shit-tastic Qb and if they go with him at starter they will fail terribly!
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You dont think so?? What if they start off 1-7 again like last year?

Pioli will be around forever, but Haley has to prove this year he can build something. This isnt Bill Parcells we are talking about....its Todd Haley.
Pioli & Haley are in a partnership with this team, if you listened to Pioli when he hired Haley. If Weis can't get Cassel to do better then it's all on Cassel.
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Pioli & Haley are in a partnership with this team, if you listened to Pioli when he hired Haley. If Weis can't get Cassel to do better then it's all on Cassel.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall in those Coaches meetings regarding the QB...
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Oh, to be a fly on the wall in those Coaches meetings regarding the QB...
I don't think they have faith in Cassel. Haley said in his presser sometime this weekend, that what we saw is the way it is going to be. If we win, it is going to be winning "ugly". There are not going to be any pretty wins for quite some time, and if that is your expectation, then you are going to be disappointed.

To me that sounds like they know Cassel ain't all that.
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I don't think they have faith in Cassel. Haley said in his presser sometime this weekend, that what we saw is the way it is going to be. If we win, it is going to be winning "ugly". There are not going to be any pretty wins for quite some time, and if that is your expectation, then you are going to be disappointed.

To me that sounds like they know Cassel ain't all that.
Yeah, and Waters and Albert need to get their heads on too. Some of those whiffs are just downright disgusting.
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Yeah, and Waters and Albert need to get their heads on too. Some of those whiffs are just downright disgusting.
So you see Cassel as Peyton Manning... but Albert and Waters are raining on his parade?
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So you see Cassel as Peyton Manning... but Albert and Waters are raining on his parade?
Oh hell no. I'm just saying it doesn't help matters overall.
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