Theoretical question

[crispystl]

O.k. let's say the earth is about to die and people need to colonize a new planet to survive. The new planet is identical to Earth with all the same resources. let's say the people are dealing with the technology of today other than the transport ships they built to take them to this other planet. All they can take to the new planet is people there isn't any room for anything else. However they do possess the knowledge to recreate the technology they once had. Let's assume everyone from earth makes it to the new planet. How long does it take their civilization to evolve. How long before the first factory is created? How long before the first car is produced? The first computer? The internet?

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by Donger

It was an it.

the one that kotter kinda had a hand in outing?

[tooge]

By decree of the king, all chiefs starting quarterbacks will have their appendix removed prior to training camp.

Other suggestions?

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by Donger

Wait, they are other people already on this planet?

No I mean the primitive people on this planet

[Kyle DeLexus]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

The next question is who from CP would you take to this other planet?

Rain Man so he can research who on the new planet likes me.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by crispystl420

O.k. let's say the earth is about to die and people need to colonize a new planet to survive. The new planet is identical to Earth with all the same resources. let's say the people are dealing with the technology of today other than the transport ships they built to take them to this other planet. All they can take to the new planet is people there isn't any room for anything else. However they do possess the knowledge to recreate the technology they once had. Let's assume everyone from earth makes it to the new planet. How long does it take their civilization to evolve. How long before the first factory is created? How long before the first car is produced? The first computer? The internet?

If you could bring experts from manufacturing facilities 1st, and bring people at a pretty decent rate...It would'nt take that long.....

Each step is a process......Need to bring people who could smelt metal and make metal old-style...Once you have metal you need people who could make tools....etc......

[Ming the Merciless]

The 1st people you would need to bring are people who could fish, hunt and grow food. People who could fashion simple tools and cookware would be good too....

Obsidian / Chert tools / bows/ spears...People trained in animal husbandry etc

[asdf]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

The good news is...the stupid and lazy would die out quickly.

Probably most of the people are gonna die off quickly since there's no infrastructure to feed x billion people. Unless you slowly bring everyone over a number of years. What about livestock animals - pigs, cows, chickens, etc?

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by asdf

Probably most of the people are gonna die off quickly since there's no infrastructure to feed x billion people. Unless you slowly bring everyone over a number of years. What about livestock animals - pigs, cows, chickens, etc?

No room to bring domesticated livestock but there are all the same animals on the new planet.

[Iowanian]

Originally Posted by asdf

Probably most of the people are gonna die off quickly since there's no infrastructure to feed x billion people. Unless you slowly bring everyone over a number of years. What about livestock animals - pigs, cows, chickens, etc?

Peta activists are screwed, Barbarians FTW!!

Bow hunters will be fat and valuable.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by asdf

Probably most of the people are gonna die off quickly since there's no infrastructure to feed x billion people. Unless you slowly bring everyone over a number of years. What about livestock animals - pigs, cows, chickens, etc?

This is a good thread.

I would tend to agree with asdf that you'd have an immediate crisis just because we rely on the infrastructure right now and couldn't build it from scratch quickly enough to support the population.

So in Scenario 1, I offer the realistic scenario as follows:

1. 6 billion people get off the ship with no supplies.
2. 5.7 billion people die the first winter while everyone scrambles for food.
3. The remaining 300 million aren't necessarily the best-equipped to rebuild since they're the best-equipped for short-term survival, so key knowledge to rebuild would be missing. Also, you'd have mass chaos as the 5.7 billion people died.
4. It'd take a couple more years for everything to settle down, and at this point people are living like they did in the middle ages.
5. For the next 40 years until the current generation all died, you'd have rapid advances, probably going from the Middle Ages to the Industrial Revolution.
6. At that point, the entire population would be people who never knew earth and you'd slow back down to a normal development pace, reproducing the advances from the Industrial Revolution to today. It would be faster than the historical pace, though, because some people would have written down memories and concepts. So to get from 1830 to today would probably take 120 years.


So my answer in Scenario 1 is 120+40+2+1=163 years.


In Scenario 2, let's assume that they have enough supplies to last the winter and that they've planned a government and organization before they get off the ship.

1. 6 billion people get off the ship with supplies.
2. For the next 40 years until the current generation all died, you'd have very rapid advances, probably going from the Middle Ages to the Depression Era.
3. At that point, the entire population would be people who never knew earth and you'd slow back down to a normal development pace, reproducing the advances from the Depression to today. It would be notably faster than the historical pace, though, because a lot of people would have written down memories and concepts. So to get from 1930 to today would probably take 30 years.

So my answer in Scenario 2 is 30+40=70 years.

[T-post Tom]

The answer is always 42.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by tooge

We may have a small problem here. See, I like you Donger. You seem like an intelligent and fairly witty person. Problem is, I'm gonna be the King there.

YOU??! With only 2632 posts?

PISHAH!!!!

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by tooge

that my friend, is why you will NOT be the king of Toogeland

Frankiestan. Not toogeland. Dream on son.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Frankie

YOU??! With only 2632 posts?

PISHAH!!!!

There's going to be a shah?

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

There's going to be a shah?

Yes and you are a front runner for the position of main Vazeer, so do not spoil your chances by questioning me again.