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Old 04-27-2012, 01:47 PM  
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Last nights first rounder.
I figured with all the bitching going on we could have a thread like this.


Knowing the way the picks before us fell, who would you rather have had with our pick?


No trading down, we have no idea where we would have went.


At 11, what pick would have made you not bitch.


I'm not arguing for the pick. Not a huge fan of it.


However, it was basically the only pick that brought us a guy that would start at a position of need. Only other guy who would have been a day 1 starter was Decastro.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:04 PM   #61
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Uhhhhh........Belcher is that guy.

And he's only getting better.
As much as Belcher's improved, him as a backup would make this team even better.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:05 PM   #62
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Trust me. Josh Chapman was the heart & soul of that defense. He was that team's emotional leader, especially off-the-field. He set the tone in practice. He set the tone just walking around campus.
Yup.

And as mentioned earlier, Barron and Upshaw were voted captains.

Not to belittle Hightower's work, but I don't want to make him any more than he is out of spite against the Poe selection.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:05 PM   #63
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I would have taken Cox or Brockers to play DE.
I would have taken DeCastro.
I would have taken Kirkpatrick.
I would have taken Ingram, McClellin, Mercilus or Jones.
I would have taken Floyd.
And only one of those guys would have been a surefire starter.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:06 PM   #64
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This might sound weird but I love swinging for the fences.

If you hit, you have greatness. If you whiff, you suffer greatly for it and draft that QB in the top 5.

Playing it safe IMO is a great way to always be 8-8.
Okay.

**** it.

This is the attitude I'm going to take. Thanks.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:08 PM   #65
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Of course if we would have took Cody instead of McCluster we could be bitching about something else today.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:09 PM   #66
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And only one of those guys would have been a surefire starter.
Poe is a surefire starter?
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:10 PM   #67
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Is he not?
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:10 PM   #68
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Ingram was a pipe dream anyway. His arms are too short.

The only short-armed passrusher in the league that has done anything is Tamba Hali, and he had to become a ****ing black belt to pull it off.
Hali does not have short arms.

At least it doesn't seem that way.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:14 PM   #69
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Is he not?
I would hesitate to say he is on Day One.

He's going to have to beat out Amon Gordon, who Crennel loves.

He's clearly going to be better, but there's going to have to be a lot of development.

My guess is that Poe is just going to absolutely suck this year. We won't know what we have until Year 3.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:15 PM   #70
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Hali does not have short arms.

At least it doesn't seem that way.
30"

Microscopic, by today's standards.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:15 PM   #71
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JFC how many times do I have to tell you this? Haven't we talked about this at length last night?

Hightower.

And then obligatory, nobody appreciates Belcher...
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:18 PM   #72
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30"

Microscopic, by today's standards.
It's kind of strange actually. His arm length is measured as 30", but they look longer in game, and from cbssports they mention his "long arms" twice during their report on him.

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That was from 2006
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As much as Belcher's improved, him as a backup would make this team even better.
I've never argued that.

My argument has been that Kuechly was not the guy to replace Belcher with, and that we haven't yet seen how good Belcher will be.

He may have reached his ceiling, but I highly doubt it, especially given the fact that he had no offseason last year, and even then he still showed improvement.

He has improved at his position at a rate similar to the improvement made by Brandon Carr.

If he continues to ascend at that rate, by the end of next season,when we lose him to free agancy, the reaction will be similar to the one when Carr walked.
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At least it doesn't seem that way.
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Poe is a surefire starter?
Yes. Maybe not by week 1.

But a few or so games in? Yeah I'd say so. Considering his competition and that he'll be taken in the 11 spot? Yeah.
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