Chiefs Late night bullshit: breaking down the tape on our defense. - Page 5

Direckshun · 09-08-2013, 10:28 PM

Just random thoughts on multiple viewings of our defensive snaps:

* During the first half (and the first half of the third quarter) the Chiefs were a fantastic, totally modern assortment of how they preferred to line up their DL. They played Poe 90% of the time, and they played him at nose and end. They played DeVito like 70%, and they played him at nose occasionally. They played Tyson Jackson about 70% of the time, and played him at both end positions. Catapano is our rotational guy.

* Catapano got some great snaps in, and looks incredibly promising -- a guy who was initially brought in as an OLB, but was insanely strong so the staff was like **** it, we have no depth at DE, let's try him out there. Not only does he give you extra athleticism, but the guy is stout as a mother****er against the run. You cannot run against the Chiefs.

* Let me say that again: you cannot run against the Chiefs. Jackson and DeVito are already incredibly good against the run, and Poe has finally developed to be perhaps the best of the bunch. Catapano has proven himself adept as well. Houston, Berry, Jordan, and DJ all serve their roles brilliantly in plugging gaps.

* That's probably the biggest difference between the Chiefs defense under Herm, Haley, and Crennel, compared to Reid. Under Reid (i.e. Bob Sutton), the Chiefs' gap integrity has so far been unrivaled. The entire defense moves as a singular cohesive unit. Poe is commanding double- and triple-teams, Jackson and DeVito are owning tackles, Houston and Hali are cutting off the edges, and Jordan, Johnson, and Berry are plugging gaps brilliantly.

* There are so many brilliant talents on this defense, but the emotional tone setters are clearly Hali and Flowers. Poe, Houston, Johnson, Berry, and all the others are very talented, but the emotional leaders on this defense right now are Hali and Flowers, and it looks like Berry is about a season or so away from getting there as well. Hali's hustle spreads like a virus across this defense, and you can see his pursuit borne out in Houston, DJ, Berry, Poe, and Jackson.

* Poe... what else can be said about this guy. His play today suggests he could keep developing to become the best DT this team has had since the franchise's Super Bowl days. There is only so much you can do against an all-muscle 330 lbs that's faster than most offensive lineman and stronger than most offensive lineman. You can tell his technique is developing, and the Chiefs are throwing him into all kinds of twists and stunts to create mismatches. My favorite play was probably his combined sack with Eric Berry.

* Eric Berry is being played like a linebacker, and against the Jags he played roughly 10% of his snaps at the line of scrimmage. His coverage has improved but the very best part of Berry's game: he is unblockable. Sending out offensive lineman to block him is a fool's errand. He sheds blocks like nobody's business.

* The Chiefs stuffed the box against the Jags -- they did more than stuff the box, they stuffed the line of scrimmage. So many times they lined up 7 guys along the line of scrimmage, some of them dropping back and some of them rushing. I still don't like Hali dropping back. Houston is money in coverage, though. He was on the field for every defensive snap because he is so ****ing versatile.

* Great game from Kendrick Lewis, too. Played very aggressive, lots of snaps up against the line of scrimmage. The Chiefs are treating Lewis as the FS and Berry as more of the SS, but they are mixing Lewis up all over the field, treating him as more of a hybrid between the safeties, while Berry is part-timing as a linebacker.

* If Jackson can rack up a half dozen sacks while being rock solid against the run, we should seriously work our ass off to resign him this offseason. He will be as close to that guy we drafted #3 overall as anything else we could possibly bring in.

* This defense has the talent and the defensive coordinator to be a Top 5 defense. It's definitely a Top 10 defense. The Cowboys game will be a phenomenal challenge, as Romo will willingly challenge our corners more aggressively, and Sean Smith, Husain Abdullah, and Quentin Demps will be challenged far more frequently. We can still be exposed in the passing game: Hali will have a bear of a time against Tyron Smith, but Houston and Poe should pave a path to Romo that Berry and DJ can follow. But if that passrush doesn't come as quickly as it needs to, then Sean Smith can get exposed if he's not on his game, which he all-too-frequently isn't. I don't fear any of Dallas' tertiary receivers against our nickel- and dime-backs, but I do fear Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, and Jason Witten against Sean Smith, Brandon Flowers, and Eric Berry.

But the Cowboys will not run on the Chiefs. Nobody will, this year.

AussieChiefsFan · 09-09-2013, 12:52 AM

Twas beautiful. Can't wait to see them tear it up next week.

Rasputin · 09-09-2013, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

He was channeling his inner Eric Winston

Did I hear right from my telly that I heard cheers that Gabbert went down in the fourth quarter? Not a lot in the crowd to be heard.

Shame on them fans disgustppting.

redshirt32 · 09-09-2013, 02:42 AM

The bigest difference with the team IMO is they are learning to control the highs and lows of the game. Credit that to the coaching staff and a team mentality on all levels of the game. Put the last play behind you good or bad another plays comming, line up and play.
Dosent hurt to have some very good talent thats been playing together for 5 years, the defense window is sky high with a couple of more studs on D we can slap the shit out of a few teams this year and years to come lovin the mentality of the team,
You could tell they are putting these guys in positions to make plays.
Carry on boys weather the storm accept the challange at hand.
Wish i was home for the home opener god i love being at arrowhead screaming my lungs out and of course the eye candy is awesome as well!

**Bob Dole** · 09-09-2013, 05:20 AM

+26 is the largest point differential for week 1, so far.

rabblerouser · 09-09-2013, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Mostly good points.

A few points of MAJOR disagreement:
-Tyson Jackson isn't going to rack up 6 sacks. He'll be lucky to get 2 or 3. He got into the backfield because nobody blocked him. I'll have to re-watch the game, but unless things have changed, he seems useless in the passing game.
-I think you can run on this defense. We will see. I think a good team is going to hit the Chiefs with a ton of misdirection, counters, bootlegs, and playfakes. We will see if we can actually stop that

Well, one of T-Jax' sacks came when Gabbart tried to bootleg out but 94 just didn't even bite.

juss' saine.

Red Beans · 09-09-2013, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red

Houston is a boss, in every way, shape and form. I credit marijuana use.

It slows the game down for him...

Red Gorilla · 09-09-2013, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

* There are so many brilliant talents on this defense, but the emotional tone setters are clearly Hali and Flowers. Poe, Houston, Johnson, Berry, and all the others are very talented, but the emotional leaders on this defense right now are Hali and Flowers, and it looks like Berry is about a season or so away from getting there as well. Hali's hustle spreads like a virus across this defense, and you can see his pursuit borne out in Houston, DJ, Berry, Poe, and Jackson.

Great points all around. Kendrick Lewis deserved some love as he had a good game. The only thing I disagree with is the part above. The team voted Berry Captain over Johnson, Flowers, and Hali. He is the unquestioned emotional leader of that defense imo.

**the Talking Can** · 09-09-2013, 06:14 AM

it's just amazing what a difference it makes when you get disruption from the DL...poe straight up whooped his man all game (something he never did in college)

at that point then, it's basically like releasing a bunch of jackals (Houston, DJ, Berry)...I didn't pay any attention to Jordan, but he's probably fine surrounded by that much talent

NFL doesn't credit catapano with a tackle, but it seemed like he was around the ball a lot for a 7th round pick

mcaj22 · 09-09-2013, 06:27 AM

Catapano, a 7th round pick was lining up 1 on 1 with Joeckel and beating him, a #2 overall pick, like a whipping post

Now I see why they passed on him

OzarksChiefsFan · 09-09-2013, 06:36 AM

I have issues, Lewis once again couldn't tackle anything. The lone player on the D that can't seem to wrap and tackle. Case in point he had Jones Drew short of the first down but decided to tackle him head high. On another play he simply whiffed. Rest of the D was pretty good but a weak link is a weak link.

Rukdafaidas · 09-09-2013, 06:45 AM

Next week should tell us a lot. I especially want to see how we handle Witten. TE's always seem to kill us. If we can handle Witten, Austin, Bryant and Romo, I'll feel much better about our defense.
I also want to see if we can get pressure on Romo. The Giants weren't getting any pressure on him last night, which really surprised me.

mcaj22 · 09-09-2013, 06:50 AM

we are the highest spending team in the NFL we better do a hell of a lot more than just shut down a shit team like Jax.

Simply Red · 09-09-2013, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Wasn't that Charles? I've had a few and my recollection might not be what it was.

No it was Albert at least the instance I'm referring to.

Simply Red · 09-09-2013, 07:01 AM

Berry safety blitz was pretty.

Frosty · 09-09-2013, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red

No it was Albert at least the instance I'm referring to.

Albert came to the defense of Charles (not Smith) when Babin threw him down out of bounds.

09-08-2013, 10:28 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Late night bullshit: breaking down the tape on our defense. Just random thoughts on multiple viewings of our defensive snaps: * During the first half (and the first half of the third quarter) the Chiefs were a fantastic, totally modern assortment of how they preferred to line up their DL. They played Poe 90% of the time, and they played him at nose and end. They played DeVito like 70%, and they played him at nose occasionally. They played Tyson Jackson about 70% of the time, and played him at both end positions. Catapano is our rotational guy. * Catapano got some great snaps in, and looks incredibly promising -- a guy who was initially brought in as an OLB, but was insanely strong so the staff was like ** it, we have no depth at DE, let's try him out there. Not only does he give you extra athleticism, but the guy is stout as a mother*er against the run. You cannot run against the Chiefs. Let me say that again: you cannot run against the Chiefs. Jackson and DeVito are already incredibly good against the run, and Poe has finally developed to be perhaps the best of the bunch. Catapano has proven himself adept as well. Houston, Berry, Jordan, and DJ all serve their roles brilliantly in plugging gaps. * That's probably the biggest difference between the Chiefs defense under Herm, Haley, and Crennel, compared to Reid. Under Reid (i.e. Bob Sutton), the Chiefs' gap integrity has so far been unrivaled. The entire defense moves as a singular cohesive unit. Poe is commanding double- and triple-teams, Jackson and DeVito are owning tackles, Houston and Hali are cutting off the edges, and Jordan, Johnson, and Berry are plugging gaps brilliantly. * There are so many brilliant talents on this defense, but the emotional tone setters are clearly Hali and Flowers. Poe, Houston, Johnson, Berry, and all the others are very talented, but the emotional leaders on this defense right now are Hali and Flowers, and it looks like Berry is about a season or so away from getting there as well. Hali's hustle spreads like a virus across this defense, and you can see his pursuit borne out in Houston, DJ, Berry, Poe, and Jackson. * Poe... what else can be said about this guy. His play today suggests he could keep developing to become the best DT this team has had since the franchise's Super Bowl days. There is only so much you can do against an all-muscle 330 lbs that's faster than most offensive lineman and stronger than most offensive lineman. You can tell his technique is developing, and the Chiefs are throwing him into all kinds of twists and stunts to create mismatches. My favorite play was probably his combined sack with Eric Berry. * Eric Berry is being played like a linebacker, and against the Jags he played roughly 10% of his snaps at the line of scrimmage. His coverage has improved but the very best part of Berry's game: he is unblockable. Sending out offensive lineman to block him is a fool's errand. He sheds blocks like nobody's business. * The Chiefs stuffed the box against the Jags -- they did more than stuff the box, they stuffed the line of scrimmage. So many times they lined up 7 guys along the line of scrimmage, some of them dropping back and some of them rushing. I still don't like Hali dropping back. Houston is money in coverage, though. He was on the field for every defensive snap because he is so ***ing versatile. Great game from Kendrick Lewis, too. Played very aggressive, lots of snaps up against the line of scrimmage. The Chiefs are treating Lewis as the FS and Berry as more of the SS, but they are mixing Lewis up all over the field, treating him as more of a hybrid between the safeties, while Berry is part-timing as a linebacker. * If Jackson can rack up a half dozen sacks while being rock solid against the run, we should seriously work our ass off to resign him this offseason. He will be as close to that guy we drafted #3 overall as anything else we could possibly bring in. * This defense has the talent and the defensive coordinator to be a Top 5 defense. It's definitely a Top 10 defense. The Cowboys game will be a phenomenal challenge, as Romo will willingly challenge our corners more aggressively, and Sean Smith, Husain Abdullah, and Quentin Demps will be challenged far more frequently. We can still be exposed in the passing game: Hali will have a bear of a time against Tyron Smith, but Houston and Poe should pave a path to Romo that Berry and DJ can follow. But if that passrush doesn't come as quickly as it needs to, then Sean Smith can get exposed if he's not on his game, which he all-too-frequently isn't. I don't fear any of Dallas' tertiary receivers against our nickel- and dime-backs, but I do fear Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, and Jason Witten against Sean Smith, Brandon Flowers, and Eric Berry. But the Cowboys will not run on the Chiefs. Nobody will, this year.
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redshirt32 Fire Controlman Vet Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: By the Sea Casino cash: $4304936	The bigest difference with the team IMO is they are learning to control the highs and lows of the game. Credit that to the coaching staff and a team mentality on all levels of the game. Put the last play behind you good or bad another plays comming, line up and play. Dosent hurt to have some very good talent thats been playing together for 5 years, the defense window is sky high with a couple of more studs on D we can slap the shit out of a few teams this year and years to come lovin the mentality of the team, You could tell they are putting these guys in positions to make plays. Carry on boys weather the storm accept the challange at hand. Wish i was home for the home opener god i love being at arrowhead screaming my lungs out and of course the eye candy is awesome as well! __________________ "I will rescind every single unconstitutional or illegal executive action from President Obama. " open an investigation into Planned Parenthood” and to prosecute any criminal conduct uncovered." Instruct the Department of Justice and the Internal Revenue Service to “cease persecuting” individuals seeking to practice their faith in their workplace.“End the catastrophic Iranian nuclear deal.” DAY ONE TED CRUZ
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09-09-2013, 05:20 AM	#64
Bob Dole King Shit of **** Mountain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texarkana, Texas Casino cash: $-1334563	+26 is the largest point differential for week 1, so far.
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09-09-2013, 06:14 AM	#68
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9162208	it's just amazing what a difference it makes when you get disruption from the DL...poe straight up whooped his man all game (something he never did in college) at that point then, it's basically like releasing a bunch of jackals (Houston, DJ, Berry)...I didn't pay any attention to Jordan, but he's probably fine surrounded by that much talent NFL doesn't credit catapano with a tackle, but it seemed like he was around the ball a lot for a 7th round pick __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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09-09-2013, 06:27 AM	#69
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	Catapano, a 7th round pick was lining up 1 on 1 with Joeckel and beating him, a #2 overall pick, like a whipping post Now I see why they passed on him
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09-09-2013, 06:36 AM	#70
OzarksChiefsFan Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ozark, MO Casino cash: $10004900	I have issues, Lewis once again couldn't tackle anything. The lone player on the D that can't seem to wrap and tackle. Case in point he had Jones Drew short of the first down but decided to tackle him head high. On another play he simply whiffed. Rest of the D was pretty good but a weak link is a weak link. __________________ "Forgiveness is between them and God. It's my job to arrange the meeting"
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09-09-2013, 06:45 AM	#71
Rukdafaidas lifelong Chiefs survivor Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $3849900	Next week should tell us a lot. I especially want to see how we handle Witten. TE's always seem to kill us. If we can handle Witten, Austin, Bryant and Romo, I'll feel much better about our defense. I also want to see if we can get pressure on Romo. The Giants weren't getting any pressure on him last night, which really surprised me.
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09-09-2013, 06:50 AM	#72
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	we are the highest spending team in the NFL we better do a hell of a lot more than just shut down a shit team like Jax.
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09-09-2013, 07:01 AM	#74
Simply Red You Sweetie! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021206219 VARSITY	Berry safety blitz was pretty.
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