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Old 05-11-2014, 02:12 AM  
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:33 PM   #61
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Remember when we picked Nico Johnson to be a starter?
Sure.....i also remember when CP had Craphonso Thorpe and Alphonso Hodge pegged in as starters. CP tells me every pick should be a 10 year starter.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:52 PM   #62
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Listen, I am not complaining about this draft, but let's be honest here.

Selling these guys as BPA is bullshit.

The first 4 picks are clearly replacements for players lost, or that we will be losing.

That is fact.
True, but I fail to see a problem with that. Find replacements early, let them learn from the person they will eventually replace. Better than waiting until they are done and then trying to fill the hole.
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:07 PM   #63
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I'd guess Ford isn't playing in the base defense until later in the season -if at all-.

That is assuming that a nickel lineup doesn't become the base and they've put Tamba at one of the ends or something.

Gaines will get nickel looks, and might be a return guy if he can play close to his combine speed if nothing else.

DAT might be the same story as Ford, in that it may take a while for him to work his way onto the field in a contributory role on offense and will be a returner as well.

Aaron Murray.. Well I kind of agree with OTWP with the sentiment that any quarterback taken outside of the second is probably just a clipboard and ballcap guy for the duration of his career, but- among the guys available- I guess I'll defer to Reid's judgment on finding a guy that will fit his system. His track record against good defenses is troubling.

The 6th rounder fatmen are project linemen that will probably get a chance to rotate through the expansive NFL-sanctioned game day attire.

I still hate-hate-HATE the fact they didn't have a second rounder, and I think a lot of other teams did much better in the draft than KC did but as a whole I can't find a lot of issue with the seven guys picked.
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:13 PM   #64
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I'd guess Ford isn't playing in the base defense until later in the season -if at all-.

That is assuming that a nickel lineup doesn't become the base and they've put Tamba at one of the ends or something.

Gaines will get nickel looks, and might be a return guy if he can play close to his combine speed if nothing else.

DAT might be the same story as Ford, in that it may take a while for him to work his way onto the field in a contributory role on offense and will be a returner as well.

Aaron Murray.. Well I kind of agree with OTWP with the sentiment that any quarterback taken outside of the second is probably just a clipboard and ballcap guy for the duration of his career, but- among the guys available- I guess I'll defer to Reid's judgment on finding a guy that will fit his system. His track record against good defenses is troubling.

The 6th rounder fatmen are project linemen that will probably get a chance to rotate through the expansive NFL-sanctioned game day attire.

I still hate-hate-HATE the fact they didn't have a second rounder, and I think a lot of other teams did much better in the draft than KC did but as a whole I can't find a lot of issue with the seven guys picked.
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:14 PM   #65
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I'd be really, really surprised if nobody from this draft class starts at all this entire year.
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:15 PM   #66
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Yeah, I know NFL teams never sell bullshit to their fanbase.

You are a Kool-aid drinking ****ing moron.
The first few picks were slotted correctly. Especially now knowing that the Eagles and Falcons were targeting Ford. And guess what, immediately after the Dee Ford pick there was a run on CBs and OLBs. Your theory is garbage. We lost a bunch of players. Over the next few years, we have LOTS of veteran contracts we want to shed. Of course our draft was going to be heavy on picks replacing players we lost or intend to replace soon.

You're just being negative for the sake of being negative. OLBs and CBs are very high positional value players and we got ones that were slotted correctly. Everything we've heard from Dorsey, it's clear he stuck to a specific board and that if the guy we took wasn't there, he would have just plucked the next guy on the board. How is that not BPA?
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Gaines, Fulton, and Thomas maybe won't start, but they all will be on the field a lot next season. Fulton probably has the best chance of any of our picks to start the season opener.

The draft isn't always about "THIS" year. Many cases it's about the next year and year after that.

But man... Kelce and Commings MUST come through this season and be productive.

I assume the Chiefs look at June cuts for more S, WR or OL help
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Sure. I tried to do it with the Alex Smith guy last year but he wouldn't take it.

What are the terms? I am talking about a legitimate long time starter.Gaines starting in either Cooper or Smith's spot. Dee Ford starting in one of the OLB positions etc...

It doesn't have to be for the full year, but it does have to be for a considerable amount of time.

But none of this injury bullshit.

Name your price sir.
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Gaines, Fulton, and Thomas maybe won't start, but they all will be on the field a lot next season. Fulton probably has the best chance of any of our picks to start the season opener.

The draft isn't always about "THIS" year. Many cases it's about the next year and year after that.

But man... Kelce and Commings MUST come through this season and be productive.

I assume the Chiefs look at June cuts for more S, WR or OL help

Meanwhile Jamaal Charles is entering his 7th year...
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Meanwhile Jamaal Charles is entering his 7th year...
At the ripe age of 27 after coming off his best year, showing nothing but improvement year after year, even after the ACL.
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At the ripe age of 27 after coming off his best year, showing nothing but improvement year after year, even after the ACL.

Meanwhile Alex Smith is 30...

Derrick Johnson is 31...

Etc..

Our core group of guys are going to start showing some signs of age. Besides, a first rounder should be an immediate starter.
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Meanwhile Alex Smith is 30...

Derrick Johnson is 31...

Etc..

Our core group of guys are going to start showing some signs of age. Besides, a first rounder should be an immediate starter.
That's a Myth, at best its a 50/50 that a post #20 guy starts on day 1.

Unless DJ sees a massive injury, that guys' going to play until at least 36. He just keeps getting better and better. I'm not sure why you even bring up Alex Smith when Peyton is the better part of 40 right now and you guys are already crowning the Broncos as division winners before a single practice has been held.

QB's and ILB's tend to be the one position where a guy who is truly talented can play for a very long time at. Look at Urlacher, guy doesn't even have Tendons, knee caps, ACL's or MCL's in his legs/knees, and he was still out there in 2012 lol
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That's a Myth, at best its a 50/50 that a post #20 guy starts on day 1.

Unless DJ sees a massive injury, that guys' going to play until at least 36. He just keeps getting better and better. I'm not sure why you even bring up Alex Smith when Peyton is the better part of 40 right now and you guys are already crowning the Broncos as division winners before a single practice has been held.

QB's and ILB's tend to be the one position where a guy who is truly talented can play for a very long time at. Look at Urlacher, guy doesn't even have Tendons, knee caps, ACL's or MCL's in his legs/knees, and he was still out there in 2012 lol


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