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Old 08-30-2017, 11:49 AM  
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Browns Trade OL Cam Erving To Chiefs
For a 2018 5th Round pick.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:09 PM   #61
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:09 PM   #62
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Erving is literally worse than a turnstile. Unless we want Mahomes to get killed this was a bad trade IMO. He's just awful, Browns fans are laughing at us. Come on Veach, spend the money on Haden instead


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Old 08-30-2017, 12:10 PM   #63
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I agree - I suggested am Erving trade in the draft forum yesterday specifically to get rid of Nah Reid. This is a good trade provided that it costs Reid his job and not Witzmann.

But folks are going a wee crazy here. A 5th is about right for a swing tackle/backup interior lineman. This isn't the guy that was a 1st rounder when Direkshun foolishly spent months jerking off to him.

He's a below average NFL player with a cheap contract and some versatility. A 5th is fair. This is a nominal asset spent to address the margins of the roster and a position of some need. It's not a heist - it's just a move that you should probably expect of a solid GM.
The jury is still out on him. He's played for two years with the worst coaching in the NFL. A 5th is a steal for what could still be a really good player. There was a reason he was that high of a pick, and that reason hasn't been disproven yet.

He could absolutely suck. But a 5th is a cheap, cheap, cheap price to pay for a guy who could still turn into a starter and good player - at a position of DIRE need for us, as well.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:10 PM   #64
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Getting a former 1st round, versatile talent for what should be a late 5th is great value.

I doubt that the Chiefs could have drafted an offensive lineman with his ceiling in the late 5th.
Hes 2 years removed from the 1st round and despite a ton of opportunity he hasn't improved.

Hes Jonathan Baldwin. His draft status just doesn't matter that much right now. Besides, weren't you on the other side of this conversation with me yesterday?

I'm glad we got him but folks are way overselling him and are way too fired up. I'd bet he's out of football in 2 years. A 5th for that gamble is fine but not world altering.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:10 PM   #65
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So y'all finally wised up and got yourselves one of those 1-15 Cleveland Browns. I guess congratulations are in order.
Donk logic or sour grapes....irrelevant either way. Truth: Good move for Chiefs even he remains a versatile, multi position back up.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:10 PM   #66
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Didn't someone wanted him in the draft and was pissed they didn't pick him up.
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5th rounder? All day long. They are always a gamble pick anyway.
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Erving is literally worse than a turnstile. Unless we want Mahomes to get killed this was a bad trade IMO. He's just awful, Browns fans are laughing at us. Come on Veach, spend the money on Haden instead


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We're not blowing a bunch of money on him. His cap hits are $1.2M each year.
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Chiefs O line is very good.
They are "decent" not "very good" at this point at least in the run game so far this pre-season, what I am watching for once the season starts will be the pass blocking. This must improve if Alex supposedly gets more aggressive downfield this season. Otherwise it will be 'primary' then to check down'.
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We're not blowing a bunch of money on him. His cap hits are $1.2M each year.
If we don't sign Haden I still expect Veach to sign a CB after teams cut down their final 53
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