Dean Spanos forced to sell Chargers?

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by Eureka

Is Portland a viable option?

Only about 2 and half to three hour drive to Seattle.

[displacedinMN]

I thought the St. Louis dome was in bad shape and needed to be torn down/replaced

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

I thought the St. Louis dome was in bad shape and needed to be torn down/replaced

It needs to be replaced but its viable for short term use.

[Kiimo]

I'm not sure if Portland even has a stadium. Also somehow finding the one place in the country in greater danger of an earthquake than LA would be impressive.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I'm not sure if Portland even has a stadium. Also somehow finding the one place in the country in greater danger of an earthquake than LA would be impressive.

I'm not sure they have the fanbase.

[jettio]

Why don't we use a blindfold and either throw a dart at a map or play pin the tail on the donkey and let's just pick the nearest town to the mark the blindfolded kid puts on the map and talk about it as a possible destination for a team that ain't going to relocate?

They spent $5 billion dollars to build SoFi Stadium, how much did SoFi spent for the naming rights?

The Chargers are not playing anywhere else after the team is sold.

[displacedinMN]

The best thing for that team is to force a sale.

I still nominate the nomad approach. They a home game in a different city every week. Smaller venues. Lincoln, New Mexico, Salt Lake City, Alabama, Mississippi, Fargo, Boise etc. Places that do not see Pro games.

[oldman]

I'd love to see Spanos out of the NFL, he's a cancer. I never understood how the NFL thought the move to LA was a great idea. They're stuck there now at least short-term until the rest of the owners figure out what to do with them. I don't see St. Louis as a viable option, nor do I foresee San Antonio until Jerry is gone. My best guess is they'd use any wiggle as an excuse to put a team in London.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by oldman

IMy best guess is they'd use any wiggle as an excuse to put a team in London.

Not gonna happen.

Still too many viable cities in the US.
Too much travel.
Not viable due to time differences.

The moment the NFL goes to London, they've jumped the shark.

If they set up a full NFL league in Europe, all in same time zone and easy travel that could work years from now.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by scho63

Not gonna happen.

Still too many viable cities in the US.
Too much travel.
Not viable due to time differences.

The moment the NFL goes to London, they've jumped the shark.

If they set up a full NFL league in Europe, all in same time zone and easy travel that could work years from now.

I could see a division, that'd cut the travel down.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

I hope that 5 billion dollar stadium buries both owners.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

I hope that 5 billion dollar stadium buries both owners.

Even if every penny of that came out of Stan Kroenke's pocket and he never made another dime he'd still be worth 3.2 billion

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

I hope that 5 billion dollar stadium buries both owners.

Yea, Chargers were foolish were tying themselves to that long term lease. I don't think LA can support two teams. But if LA had a chance for two teams, they would have been better off building two, 2.5 billion dollar stadiums in different parts of the city.

NYC has the density and transportation to put two teams in the same stadium. But people can't get around LA that easily. If the Chargers had their own stadium in a different part of the city so a different fan base could identify with the team and had an easier time actually getting to the stadium, they would stand a little better of a chance. And the franchise would be worth more if they owned a stadium instead of paying rent.

Overall, they are probably screwed.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Yea, Chargers were foolish were tying themselves to that long term lease. I don't think LA can support two teams. But if LA had a chance for two teams, they would have been better off building two, 2.5 billion dollar stadiums in different parts of the city.

NYC has the density and transportation to put two teams in the same stadium. But people can't get around LA that easily. If the Chargers had their own stadium in a different part of the city so a different fan base could identify with the team and had an easier time actually getting to the stadium, they would stand a little better of a chance. And the franchise would be worth more if they owned a stadium instead of paying rent.

Overall, they are probably screwed.

First off, Kroenke, who spent $5.8 billion to build the stadium, which includes new studios for the NFL Network, apartments, condos and shopping facilities, put this plan in place a decade before the Chargers even considered moving to Los Angeles. His facility will not only be used for the NFL but for Final Fours, the Olympics, World Cup, concerts and so on. The Chargers are a tiny component to his overall revenue stream.

Secondly, the city of Los Angeles had no problems supporting the Rams from 1950-1980 and haven't had any problems supporting them since their return. Their first preseason game in 2015 broke all preseason attendance records with more than 100,000 people.

Transportation is no issue, either. JFC, the Great Western Forum, which is adjacent to SoFi, was jammed packed during the 70's, 80's and early 90's before Staples Center was built and it's still jammed packed with concert events. I have no idea why you're conflating traffic and transportation to the area, which is near LAX for ****'s Sake, but that is absolutely no issue, whatsoever. Could public transportation be better? Sure, but that could be said about the city as a whole.

And if the location is so "bad", as you state, why is Steve Ballmer breaking ground on a new facility for the Clippers and why did he purchase The Forum?



And finally, no one gives a flying **** about the Chargers. No one in Los Angeles cared about them when they were in San Diego and no one gives a **** about them in Los Angeles. That should have been absolutely clear before the Spanos family decided to put their fate in the hands of the man who made his fortune by running Walmart but they're so desperate and so ****ing stupid that they've completely devalued their franchise in terms of fan interest. The only fans that care about them live 90 minutes south.

And very few NFL owners own their stadiums, with the Rams being one of the few.

[jettio]

According to this article in LA Times. Chargers rent is $1 annual to the company owned by Kroenke.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story...0the%20stadium.

The only teams that own their stadiums and land are the Patriots, Panthers, Dolphins and Washington football team.

Even the Cowboys pay rent to City of Arlington. Only 2 million dollars a year but that is more than the Chargers pay, which is $1 a year.