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Old 03-17-2022, 07:57 PM  
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Kia Nero EV EX - Anyone here have one yet?
I'm not fond of Kia. Up until recently I have heard nothing but a series of horror stories about this brand. I vowed long ago to never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever buy a Kia.

THAT SAID

I am in need of a vehicle and I may as well get an electric one because I pay .097 per kwh for electricity and I like the sound of traveling 230 miles for $8. All my research has lead me to...



While I would *NEVER* pay $40k for a Kia... they do have an offer where I can lease this vehicle for 36 months at $270 a month w/15k per year mile allowance. Between the monthly payments, fuel costs, and insurance we are essentially breaking even.

Most everyone I know that has purchased a Kia in the last 3-4 years has been really happy with them. It seems like Hyundai took renewed interest in their "off brand" label and decided to pump out some decent vehicles as of late.

Anyone here have one yet?

/why a lease? Because this is my first ev and this is the first ev Kia has made. Looking before leaping.
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Old 03-18-2022, 07:57 PM   #61
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I don't believe DaFace was taking a jab at your financial state.



What he is saying is that while yes, you are *technically* correct that it takes a lifetime to charge from a 120v BUT... if someone has enough dough to spend on an $80k car then they probably not only have the extra $700 it costs to install the 220 outlet and purchase the charger... they also probably live in a home that has wiring which can support 220v.
Exactly. It's like criticizing the existence of vans because most houses don't have the room to store an RV.
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Old 03-21-2022, 07:07 AM   #62
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The car is pretty damn neat. I forget that tax, title, tag and shit adds like $60 a month to a car payment... but worked it out. Got it home, getting my 220v outlet put in this week, I've got enough charge on it to last through the week without having to go and sit in the Walmart parking lot for 4 hours on the public level 2 charger.









The car is not Tesla fast where you get thrown into the seat upon acceleration BUT in sport mode it will gently push you into the seat upon acceleration. The seats are comfortable enough. Adaptive cruise control was nice and it has steering assist which is nice on long drives on the highway but still freaks me the **** out.

The car is considerably smaller than the previous one (Suzuki Grand Vitara)... it is basically a hatchback that sits high.
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Old 03-21-2022, 07:39 AM   #63
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Nice car! Happy you were able to close the deal.
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Old 03-21-2022, 08:23 AM   #64
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Nice! I definitely love the ACC and lane assist (not that those are exclusive to EVs). They definitely help on long road trips or when you're in slow moving traffic. Looks like a fun little car.
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Old 03-21-2022, 10:08 AM   #65
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Nice! I definitely love the ACC and lane assist (not that those are exclusive to EVs). They definitely help on long road trips or when you're in slow moving traffic. Looks like a fun little car.
I find them both annoying. Our ACC is way too sensitive and it slows the car jarringly at times. The lane assist is also too sensitive so the car is constantly beeping at me over nothing.
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I find them both annoying. Our ACC is way too sensitive and it slows the car jarringly at times. The lane assist is also too sensitive so the car is constantly beeping at me over nothing.
I have steering assist on my Accord. Hated it. Disabled it
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Old 03-21-2022, 10:30 AM   #67
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Are you buying strictly for the gas mileage? Electric cars aren't nearly as green as people think.
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Old 03-21-2022, 10:32 AM   #68
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I've had bad experiences with KIAs but I guess the quality has improved quite a bit?

I had a KIA Rio 4 door back in 2003 and it was a piece. It was also the most base model they had (it didn't come with power steering lol). it for some reason ate spark plugs. it did get really good gas mileage tho
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Old 03-21-2022, 10:43 AM   #69
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Holy shit what a ****ing ordeal this has been so far. Man oh man... their cars better function better than their employees do.

Most dealers I called didn't have the car. No worries there... that is understandable.

3 dealers had a "market price adjustment" markup of $3k that was not reflected on their websites. That annoyed me but whatever.

Then we get to Don at Manhattan Kia. I say again... **** THAT GUY. I literally got in a yelling match with that asshole because he constantly talked over me and did everything short of call me a liar in regards to Kia offering that lease option.

I then called Kia to confirm that this offer even existed because Don stated that the problem must be on Kia's side. That went absolutely nowhere after 2 hours.

I called another dealership (Anderson Kia in St. Joe) who had a car in stock and the dipshit there told me that I would have to come up with the $7,500 money up front from the tax rebate and I would get that back from the government later. I paused, reminded him that I don't own the car on a lease... the leasing company does therefore I don't get the rebate. I heard silence on the other end of the line and then "yeah, that's just how it is". *insert price is right fail horn* Not wanting to argue with yet another salesperson about this I simply thanked him and hung up.

I started calling dealerships in St. Louis and landed on Jim Butler Kia where I talked to a dude named Rex. I explained my situation:

* First I asked him if he had any Nero EVs and lucky for me... there is one coming on the truck and it arrives tomorrow or Monday.

* Second I asked him for his mobile number so I could text him the offer from Kia and explained that I have hit brick wall after brick wall on this and just needed to know if his dealership would honor the offer at the price I had built out. He read gave it a first glance and said it looked good, kept reading, then hit that same spot about the fed tax rebate. Asked me to hang on while he talked to the manager.

He comes back and tells me that it is solid, explained that the rebate offer was EXACTLY as I anticipated, and let me put down a deposit on the vehicle. We may get it as early as tomorrow and as late as Monday.

HUZZAH!!!!!!

If you are gonna get this car... **** every last dealership in Kansas City and the immediate surrounding area. Hit up Jim Butler KIA in St. Louis and ask for Rex.

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I will update this thread with either photos of the vehicle or a rant about how KIA ****ed me yet again.

Congrats on getting the right deal. Buying a car these days for the price you want and the car you want is like buying a house and you are the agent. You gotta work for that shit.
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Are you buying strictly for the gas mileage? Electric cars aren't nearly as green as people think.
I don't care about the environment at all. I will dunk a baby seal in oil. Rahh I'm crazy. I just want this nation to become less dependent on oil, and it's way less cost for ownership and for use than gas.
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I find them both annoying. Our ACC is way too sensitive and it slows the car jarringly at times. The lane assist is also too sensitive so the car is constantly beeping at me over nothing.
There are definitely wide variances in how natural they feel. I had ACC on a rental a few years back and hated it, but I really like it on the RAV4P. You do still occasionally find yourself behind a slow car without realizing it, but overall it does a nice job. And again, the place where I like it the best is in traffic where I can just kind of set it and let it do its thing rather than constantly going back and forth between the brake and accelerator.

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Regarding the acceleration, I'm guessing the Niro is about in line with the Leaf. You're right that it won't wow any Tesla enthusiasts, but it's plenty zippy for what you actually need when driving around.

Out of curiosity, does the Niro do one-pedal driving? I miss not having that on my RAV4P.
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I don't care about the environment at all. I will dunk a baby seal in oil. Rahh I'm crazy. I just want this nation to become less dependent on oil, and it's way less cost for ownership and for use than gas.
While we provide a fairly large percentage of our own oil, far too much of our oil comes from nations who hate us.

I look forward to buying an EV when I need a new car next.
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This is why I'm going with an EV.



At 24MPG, it would take 10 gallons of gasoline which would cost about $36-38.

Add in the fact that maintenance expenses are going to drop as well... it is a no brainer for us.
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There are definitely wide variances in how natural they feel. I had ACC on a rental a few years back and hated it, but I really like it on the RAV4P. You do still occasionally find yourself behind a slow car without realizing it, but overall it does a nice job. And again, the place where I like it the best is in traffic where I can just kind of set it and let it do its thing rather than constantly going back and forth between the brake and accelerator.
We do a lot of interstate driving. In town, ACC is a lot more tolerable. On the interstate, it's terrible.

The big problem is that you can't turn it off. If CC is on, safety measures are on. You can't enable CC and shut off the ACC, it's all or nothing.
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We do a lot of interstate driving. In town, ACC is a lot more tolerable. On the interstate, it's terrible.

The big problem is that you can't turn it off. If CC is on, safety measures are on. You can't enable CC and shut off the ACC, it's all or nothing.
Eww, that sucks. Mine has the option to do it either way (CC vs. ACC). Though admittedly I've never turned it off.
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