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Why the Chiefs face a new reality in the Patrick Mahomes Era after this loss to Bills

Von Miller walked behind the lectern inside the tight quarters of a room reserved for a Bills news conference, less than half an hour after his team beat the Chiefs here at Arrowhead Stadium. He began with an opening statement, of sorts. “Howdy,” he said, and then he offered a grin. “I came in this stadium a whole bunch of times, and I’ve been at this same podium, and I ain’t have no smile. So it’s good to come in here and smile.”

For years, the Denver Broncos could not beat the Patrick Mahomes-led Chiefs with Von Miller at this stadium, but on Sunday, the Bills would not have won without him. The marriage has helped form the team that is intentionally and blatantly built to beat the Chiefs, future ramifications be damned. But with a payoff. The Chiefs are no longer the best team in the NFL — a home defeat did not produce that statement, but rather cemented it. That title belongs to the Bills now, and for evidence, don’t look at the fact they won, but rather how they won.

Josh Allen was nails on the game-winning two-minute drill, which absorbed the kind of inevitability Patrick Mahomes has so often delivered others. But Allen was nails last time the Bills visited Kansas City. The difference this time? Their defense got the stop it could not get here in January. That was Miller’s doing, and it’s the reason the Bills felt comfortable paying a 33-year-old edge rusher $45 million guaranteed this summer, even if it means he will still be eating up cap space at age 37.

The final impact play reads as a Mahomes interception into the arms of Bills cornerback Taron Johnson, but Miller wrecked the play with pressure inside the edge of right tackle Andrew Wylie, forcing Mahomes into a throwing window he did not plan.

One drive earlier, Miller sacked Mahomes to end a drive the Chiefs would also like back. He is a difference-maker on a team that spent an offseason knowing it was 13 seconds shy of beating the Chiefs in January — heck, knowing it has spent the last two summers with a lot of time to dwell on the Kansas City Chiefs.

That’s the way it works now. The title of best-team-in-football will change course over the next decade, with the Chiefs glued to that mix, but the Patrick Mahomes Era will always include a general manager out there somewhere, constructing the blueprint of a roster to take him out, even if it means sacrificing part of his future to do it. The Bills are this year’s version, and maybe next year’s version, and maybe the version over the next few years.

But for the duration of Mahomes’ 10-year contract, there will be others. This is a new norm, a new reality confronting the Chiefs that is more complimentary than it appears on the face of it. The Bills do not care if Miller’s contract puts them in cap hell in two years, when he’s 35 and earns $22 million — he is the over-the-top addition to win games like the one they won Sunday. Or to win the exact game they won Sunday. And it worked. But barely.

It’s a weird spin to put a moral victory on a Mahomes loss — the Chiefs are not some sort of lovable underdogs, even if they were underdogs on this field Sunday for the first time in Mahomes’ career. While that’s not the intention, not all losses are created equally.

Three weeks ago in Indianapolis, the Chiefs looked capable of losing to just about anybody. On Sunday, the team that has eyed them for two offseasons with all resources on deck needed a lot of things to go right in the fourth quarter. This felt like a coin-toss game — though not quite as literally as last time.

The Chiefs are certainly not miles away, even after implementing an inverse offseason strategy, extending their championship window at the expense of a short-term hit. The gap between the Bills and Chiefs appears more razor-thin than I anticipated, and if you don’t expect they’ll get another shot, I’d like to see which team you think will get that shot at the Bills in the postseason.

“I think you just want to win, just because you’re a competitor and you know you’re playing the best of the best — and you feel like you’re the best of the best,” Mahomes said. “You wanna win those games. “At the end of the day, that’s something you gotta reiterate to the guys in the locker room — it’s one game in the regular season that you wanted to win, felt like you could win and you didn’t. So how are you going to respond?” The broader point is this: If you felt like the Chiefs could win the Super Bowl before Sunday, and count me on that list, why would a late interception do anything to change that?

The reverberation of the outcome is not that the Chiefs can no longer accomplish everything on their preseason goals list — rather, it’s that for the first time since Mahomes became the franchise quarterback, he might need to go on the road to accomplish them. The Bills have a leg up on the race for homefield.

But otherwise, nobody needs a reminder that the Chiefs lost this same game, which arrived in similar timing on the schedule, just a year ago. In a much worse fashion, to boot. And then they won the rematch. A lot can happen between now and the time the playoffs arrive — three months can resemble a lifetime in football — so a rematch is not guaranteed. But there’s not another team in the AFC that belonged on the field with either of these teams. There is, however, a key difference if they do meet again — a difference that could become more convention, less abnormal.

They’ll be the underdogs.

Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...#storylink=cpy
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Old 10-17-2022, 06:40 PM   #61
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Von Miller walked behind the lectern inside the tight quarters of a room reserved for a Bills news conference, less than half an hour after his team beat the Chiefs here at Arrowhead Stadium. He began with an opening statement, of sorts. “Howdy,” he said, and then he offered a grin. “I came in this stadium a whole bunch of times, and I’ve been at this same podium, and I ain’t have no smile. So it’s good to come in here and smile.”

For years, the Denver Broncos could not beat the Patrick Mahomes-led Chiefs with Von Miller at this stadium, but on Sunday, the Bills would not have won without him. The marriage has helped form the team that is intentionally and blatantly built to beat the Chiefs, future ramifications be damned. But with a payoff. The Chiefs are no longer the best team in the NFL — a home defeat did not produce that statement, but rather cemented it. That title belongs to the Bills now, and for evidence, don’t look at the fact they won, but rather how they won.

Josh Allen was nails on the game-winning two-minute drill, which absorbed the kind of inevitability Patrick Mahomes has so often delivered others. But Allen was nails last time the Bills visited Kansas City. The difference this time? Their defense got the stop it could not get here in January. That was Miller’s doing, and it’s the reason the Bills felt comfortable paying a 33-year-old edge rusher $45 million guaranteed this summer, even if it means he will still be eating up cap space at age 37.

The final impact play reads as a Mahomes interception into the arms of Bills cornerback Taron Johnson, but Miller wrecked the play with pressure inside the edge of right tackle Andrew Wylie, forcing Mahomes into a throwing window he did not plan.

One drive earlier, Miller sacked Mahomes to end a drive the Chiefs would also like back. He is a difference-maker on a team that spent an offseason knowing it was 13 seconds shy of beating the Chiefs in January — heck, knowing it has spent the last two summers with a lot of time to dwell on the Kansas City Chiefs.

That’s the way it works now. The title of best-team-in-football will change course over the next decade, with the Chiefs glued to that mix, but the Patrick Mahomes Era will always include a general manager out there somewhere, constructing the blueprint of a roster to take him out, even if it means sacrificing part of his future to do it. The Bills are this year’s version, and maybe next year’s version, and maybe the version over the next few years.

But for the duration of Mahomes’ 10-year contract, there will be others. This is a new norm, a new reality confronting the Chiefs that is more complimentary than it appears on the face of it. The Bills do not care if Miller’s contract puts them in cap hell in two years, when he’s 35 and earns $22 million — he is the over-the-top addition to win games like the one they won Sunday. Or to win the exact game they won Sunday. And it worked. But barely.

It’s a weird spin to put a moral victory on a Mahomes loss — the Chiefs are not some sort of lovable underdogs, even if they were underdogs on this field Sunday for the first time in Mahomes’ career. While that’s not the intention, not all losses are created equally.

Three weeks ago in Indianapolis, the Chiefs looked capable of losing to just about anybody. On Sunday, the team that has eyed them for two offseasons with all resources on deck needed a lot of things to go right in the fourth quarter. This felt like a coin-toss game — though not quite as literally as last time.

The Chiefs are certainly not miles away, even after implementing an inverse offseason strategy, extending their championship window at the expense of a short-term hit. The gap between the Bills and Chiefs appears more razor-thin than I anticipated, and if you don’t expect they’ll get another shot, I’d like to see which team you think will get that shot at the Bills in the postseason.

“I think you just want to win, just because you’re a competitor and you know you’re playing the best of the best — and you feel like you’re the best of the best,” Mahomes said. “You wanna win those games. “At the end of the day, that’s something you gotta reiterate to the guys in the locker room — it’s one game in the regular season that you wanted to win, felt like you could win and you didn’t. So how are you going to respond?” The broader point is this: If you felt like the Chiefs could win the Super Bowl before Sunday, and count me on that list, why would a late interception do anything to change that?

The reverberation of the outcome is not that the Chiefs can no longer accomplish everything on their preseason goals list — rather, it’s that for the first time since Mahomes became the franchise quarterback, he might need to go on the road to accomplish them. The Bills have a leg up on the race for homefield.

But otherwise, nobody needs a reminder that the Chiefs lost this same game, which arrived in similar timing on the schedule, just a year ago. In a much worse fashion, to boot. And then they won the rematch. A lot can happen between now and the time the playoffs arrive — three months can resemble a lifetime in football — so a rematch is not guaranteed. But there’s not another team in the AFC that belonged on the field with either of these teams. There is, however, a key difference if they do meet again — a difference that could become more convention, less abnormal.

They’ll be the underdogs.

Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...#storylink=cpy
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The new reality is we no longer have "the guy" at QB in the NFL.

Buffalo does.

For the first time in the Mahomes Era, we will have to find a way to beat a team in the playoffs that has an advantage over us at the QB position.

It's going to be a tall task for Reid, and I'm afraid we are lacking the personnel around Mahomes to help push him above Allen.

There's a long way to go until January though.
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So here's what Buffalo is up against next year. Not hard to see what they're doing. They went all in on winning next year knowing that next year their cap is going to blow the hell up. The below players alone will jack up the cap by ~$75M in new cap next year with the majority of these guys VERY difficult to restructure because of all the dead cap. Seems like most major players' salary is going to WAY more than double next season. The salary cap will likely rise in 2023 which does Buffalo a huge favor. But these hikes are nothing to sneeze at.

Josh Allen - $16M --> $39M ($94M dead cap)
Stephon Diggs - $11M cap hit --> $20M ($45M dead cap)
Von Miller - $5M --> $18M ($40M dead cap)
Matt Milano - $5M --> $13M
Dion Dawkins - $7M --> $15M
Daquon Jones - $3.5M --> $8.5M
Taron Johnson - $4.5M --> $9M
Dawson Knock - $2.6M --> $6.4M
Micah Hyde - $5.6M --> $10.8M

Devin Singletary - Free agent after 2022
Jordan Poyer - Free agent after 2022
Gabriel Davis - Free agent after 2023 (we really think he's going to play for $2M next year?)
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Von Miller walked behind the lectern inside the tight quarters of a room reserved for a Bills news conference, less than half an hour after his team beat the Chiefs here at Arrowhead Stadium. He began with an opening statement, of sorts. “Howdy,” he said, and then he offered a grin. “I came in this stadium a whole bunch of times, and I’ve been at this same podium, and I ain’t have no smile. So it’s good to come in here and smile.”

For years, the Denver Broncos could not beat the Patrick Mahomes-led Chiefs with Von Miller at this stadium, but on Sunday, the Bills would not have won without him. The marriage has helped form the team that is intentionally and blatantly built to beat the Chiefs, future ramifications be damned. But with a payoff. The Chiefs are no longer the best team in the NFL — a home defeat did not produce that statement, but rather cemented it. That title belongs to the Bills now, and for evidence, don’t look at the fact they won, but rather how they won.

Josh Allen was nails on the game-winning two-minute drill, which absorbed the kind of inevitability Patrick Mahomes has so often delivered others. But Allen was nails last time the Bills visited Kansas City. The difference this time? Their defense got the stop it could not get here in January. That was Miller’s doing, and it’s the reason the Bills felt comfortable paying a 33-year-old edge rusher $45 million guaranteed this summer, even if it means he will still be eating up cap space at age 37.

The final impact play reads as a Mahomes interception into the arms of Bills cornerback Taron Johnson, but Miller wrecked the play with pressure inside the edge of right tackle Andrew Wylie, forcing Mahomes into a throwing window he did not plan.

One drive earlier, Miller sacked Mahomes to end a drive the Chiefs would also like back. He is a difference-maker on a team that spent an offseason knowing it was 13 seconds shy of beating the Chiefs in January — heck, knowing it has spent the last two summers with a lot of time to dwell on the Kansas City Chiefs.

That’s the way it works now. The title of best-team-in-football will change course over the next decade, with the Chiefs glued to that mix, but the Patrick Mahomes Era will always include a general manager out there somewhere, constructing the blueprint of a roster to take him out, even if it means sacrificing part of his future to do it. The Bills are this year’s version, and maybe next year’s version, and maybe the version over the next few years.

But for the duration of Mahomes’ 10-year contract, there will be others. This is a new norm, a new reality confronting the Chiefs that is more complimentary than it appears on the face of it. The Bills do not care if Miller’s contract puts them in cap hell in two years, when he’s 35 and earns $22 million — he is the over-the-top addition to win games like the one they won Sunday. Or to win the exact game they won Sunday. And it worked. But barely.

It’s a weird spin to put a moral victory on a Mahomes loss — the Chiefs are not some sort of lovable underdogs, even if they were underdogs on this field Sunday for the first time in Mahomes’ career. While that’s not the intention, not all losses are created equally.

Three weeks ago in Indianapolis, the Chiefs looked capable of losing to just about anybody. On Sunday, the team that has eyed them for two offseasons with all resources on deck needed a lot of things to go right in the fourth quarter. This felt like a coin-toss game — though not quite as literally as last time.

The Chiefs are certainly not miles away, even after implementing an inverse offseason strategy, extending their championship window at the expense of a short-term hit. The gap between the Bills and Chiefs appears more razor-thin than I anticipated, and if you don’t expect they’ll get another shot, I’d like to see which team you think will get that shot at the Bills in the postseason.

“I think you just want to win, just because you’re a competitor and you know you’re playing the best of the best — and you feel like you’re the best of the best,” Mahomes said. “You wanna win those games. “At the end of the day, that’s something you gotta reiterate to the guys in the locker room — it’s one game in the regular season that you wanted to win, felt like you could win and you didn’t. So how are you going to respond?” The broader point is this: If you felt like the Chiefs could win the Super Bowl before Sunday, and count me on that list, why would a late interception do anything to change that?

The reverberation of the outcome is not that the Chiefs can no longer accomplish everything on their preseason goals list — rather, it’s that for the first time since Mahomes became the franchise quarterback, he might need to go on the road to accomplish them. The Bills have a leg up on the race for homefield.

But otherwise, nobody needs a reminder that the Chiefs lost this same game, which arrived in similar timing on the schedule, just a year ago. In a much worse fashion, to boot. And then they won the rematch. A lot can happen between now and the time the playoffs arrive — three months can resemble a lifetime in football — so a rematch is not guaranteed. But there’s not another team in the AFC that belonged on the field with either of these teams. There is, however, a key difference if they do meet again — a difference that could become more convention, less abnormal.

They’ll be the underdogs.

Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...#storylink=cpy
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So here's what Buffalo is up against next year. Not hard to see what they're doing. They went all in on winning next year knowing that next year their cap is going to blow the hell up. The below players alone will jack up the cap by ~$75M in new cap next year with the majority of these guys VERY difficult to restructure because of all the dead cap. Seems like most major players' salary is going to WAY more than double next season. The salary cap will likely rise in 2023 which does Buffalo a huge favor. But these hikes are nothing to sneeze at.

Josh Allen - $16M --> $39M ($94M dead cap)
Stephon Diggs - $11M cap hit --> $20M ($45M dead cap)
Von Miller - $5M --> $18M ($40M dead cap)
Matt Milano - $5M --> $13M
Dion Dawkins - $7M --> $15M
Daquon Jones - $3.5M --> $8.5M
Taron Johnson - $4.5M --> $9M
Dawson Knock - $2.6M --> $6.4M
Micah Hyde - $5.6M --> $10.8M

Devin Singletary - Free agent after 2022
Jordan Poyer - Free agent after 2022
Gabriel Davis - Free agent after 2023 (we really think he's going to play for $2M next year?)
Ed Oliver - Free agent after 2023
what an immense amount of pressure on them to get it done this year

they are going to bust

one injury to von or stefon or tre or poyer and they are going to bust hard like frozen pipes

and they have to deal with an afc east that is surprisingly good and will be hungry for them...no easy games....

let's see how they like the hot seat
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The new reality is we no longer have "the guy" at QB in the NFL.

Buffalo does.

For the first time in the Mahomes Era, we will have to find a way to beat a team in the playoffs that has an advantage over us at the QB position.

It's going to be a tall task for Reid, and I'm afraid we are lacking the personnel around Mahomes to help push him above Allen.

There's a long way to go until January though.
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what an immense amount of pressure on them to get it done this year

they are going to bust

one injury to von or stefon or tre or poyer and they are going to bust hard like frozen pipes

and they have to deal with an afc east that is surprisingly good and will be hungry for them...no easy games....

let's see how they like the hot seat
They will be fine as long as Allen is healthy. If he goes down their season is toast. He can overcome the loss of any other player you named.
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The new reality is we no longer have "the guy" at QB in the NFL.

Buffalo does.

For the first time in the Mahomes Era, we will have to find a way to beat a team in the playoffs that has an advantage over us at the QB position.

It's going to be a tall task for Reid, and I'm afraid we are lacking the personnel around Mahomes to help push him above Allen.

There's a long way to go until January though.
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Stupid ****ing ending to a stupid ****ing article. The Chiefs were already the underdogs at home. Multiple players on d out.

We need to be looking at this loss the same way Buffalo is looking at their loss to Miami. We had guys out. They took advantage. Good job doing what an NFL team is supposed to do, capitalize.

They very nearly didn't, and with all the talk of the Bills being a juggernaut, they sure did struggle to get to 24 on an injury riddled, rookie laden defense.

**** this article, and ANYONE who buys into this pussy ass bullshit.
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They will be fine as long as Allen is healthy. If he goes down their season is toast. He can overcome the loss of any other player you named.
allen was dogshit before stefon came to town

if they lose him they'll be far less potent on offense
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Old 10-17-2022, 07:13 PM   #73
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allen was dogshit before stefon came to town

if they lose him they'll be far less potent on offense
I didn’t say they wouldn’t be worse, just he could overcome it. KC would be less potent if Kelce went down. Doesn’t mean Mahomes couldn’t overcome it though.
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Not sure how any Chiefs fan can hate Von Miller. The guy reveres Derrick Thomas and probably would've signed with KC over anyone else if offered the same contract. He's an absolutely legendary pass rusher and there's no part of me that roots against him individually.
First, he was a Bronco- and now he is a Bill. Both teams I despise and anyone who plays for them.
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Not sure how any Chiefs fan can hate Von Miller. The guy reveres Derrick Thomas and probably would've signed with KC over anyone else if offered the same contract. He's an absolutely legendary pass rusher and there's no part of me that roots against him individually.
He wanted to be like DT. That doesn’t mean he wants to be a Chief though.
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