So Just What Do We All Want Stadium-Wise?

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by Dante84

It won’t happen, but I wish they would just tear down everything in the West bottoms area, and drop the new Arrowhead in there, and have the Royals go to the East Village site.

But the smell...it's not constant, but when it kicks, it causes Havana Syndrome.

[O.city]

Nostalgia and all.....man I hate to see Arrowhead go. It's just been such a big part of all of our lives.

But that's just probably the way things go and its inevitable. That being the case, you've gotta get somewhere closer to actual business than where they are. That area isn't going to ever develop, so don't try.

The west bottoms are an interesting idea, but I would imagine a billion dollars ain't touching it down there.

I've not seen anyone talk about it, but the northland has really seemed to explode my last couple trips up there, so maybe somewhere that way?

The Legends area doesn't do it for me. I know there's shit out there, but it seems like its kinda peaked....maybe I'm off on that.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Nostalgia and all.....man I hate to see Arrowhead go. It's just been such a big part of all of our lives.

But that's just probably the way things go and its inevitable. That being the case, you've gotta get somewhere closer to actual business than where they are. That area isn't going to ever develop, so don't try.

The west bottoms are an interesting idea, but I would imagine a billion dollars ain't touching it down there.

I've not seen anyone talk about it, but the northland has really seemed to explode my last couple trips up there, so maybe somewhere that way?

The Legends area doesn't do it for me. I know there's shit out there, but it seems like its kinda peaked....maybe I'm off on that.

I'm a northland kid (grew up in Parkville) and yeah, it's gone off up there.

Probably plenty of space out by the new airport still. Maybe near Tiffany Springs Park or Platte Purchase? Quite a bit of available land out there around 435 as well, though I'm not sure how much of it is capable of being readily developed into that immense a plan. I mean you're talking about 400 acres pretty easily.

[crayzkirk]

How about an actual plan instead of give us more money and trust us?

Also, why do the residents of the area that fund the team have to buy a cable or streaming service to watch their local team?

Or perhaps some feeling of gratitude for supporting both of these team through the lean years.

Tickets, parking, concessions all continue to go up in price and yet, they ask for more.

[stevieray]

It doesn't matter what we want.

They are going to do whatever they want, we are just along for the ride.

KC filled that stadium for years when they weren't winning anything near a playoff game.

They want to go, let them. Life marches on.

This is ultimately about money, not nostalgia, nor area.


I've got enough memories to last a lifetime, albeit I'm heading towards my twilight years.

It's just not that important to me at this point.

* They won SBIV, built Arrowhead and then didn't win for years. Be sad to see that repeat itself.

[notorious]

No matter what, a new stadium will bring PSL's, more parking rape, etc.

I don't go to many games so I don't understand the emotional side of what you guys describe. To me I just see gouging, gouging, gouging.

I do well, and run a very good business. I have a problem with getting ass-****ed at every turn.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by notorious

No matter what, a new stadium will bring PSL's, more parking rape, etc.

I don't go to many games so I don't understand the emotional side of what you guys describe. To me I just see gouging, gouging, gouging.

I do well, and run a very good business. I have a problem with getting ass-****ed at every turn.

That's my biggest worry as well. Going to a game isn't cheap, but it isn't prohibitive. For most games you can get decent tickets for 4 people for around $500. If that's something you wanted to do, it wouldn't be hard to save $50/mo for a year and get your game in with the family.

And that will likely seem like a walk in the park compared to what will happen if/when they build a new stadium. Prices don't typically just increase - they friggen explode. And long-term STHs end up getting price out or just flat displaced on occasion because of it.

I think we had a member here who had his seats at the 50 (he'd had for a couple decades) double in price when they did the Arrowhead renovations so he had to move. You'll get that sort of thing and then some with a new stadium.

[RunKC]

Agree with DJ. They need a roof and this year made that abundantly clear. Fans having amputations is clearly not ideal. It’s not “football conditions”.

I’ve been to Arrowhead in rainy cold games and it’s honestly not fun. It’s not a fun experience for the price and the football isn’t as quality as it could be. I’m fine with warm games and snow games like the Colts 2018 playoff game being open. That’s fun. That’s football. But not -20 degree games like the Dolphins playoff game.

This helps fan experience and Clark gets a SB which will undoubtedly help Kansas City.

I’d love to have a retractable roof like the one in Toronto.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Agree with DJ. They need a roof and this year made that abundantly clear. Fans having amputations is clearly not ideal. It’s not “football conditions”.

I’ve been to Arrowhead in rainy cold games and it’s honestly not fun. It’s not a fun experience for the price and the football isn’t as quality as it could be. I’m fine with warm games and snow games like the Colts 2018 playoff game being open. That’s fun. That’s football. But not -20 degree games like the Dolphins playoff game.

This helps fan experience and Clark gets a SB which will undoubtedly help Kansas City.

I’d love to have a retractable roof like the one in Toronto.

That's a cool design.

[TLO]

I want a LJS in both stadiums!!!

[Rainbarrel]

Just rotate to different college stadiums in Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, Arkansas,.....

[Strongside]

My brother in law is an architectural engineer in Boston. Originally from the KC area. He says the teams aren’t bullshitting about concrete being an issue.

Says venues like Fenway and Wrigley are fairly easy to update to modern standards for things like tensile strength because you can simply swap out I-beams or reinforce trusses, etc.

Concrete, which was used heavily in the 60’s-80’s, does not maintain its strength over time the same way steel does and is extremely hard do replace in complex design systems like Kauffman and Arrowhead.

He says they could be steel reinforced but the costs to do so would likely be so astronomical that they wouldn’t make sense over just building anew.

His words “inspections will begin to fail, and upkeep will be too expensive to justify staying there, and I’m guessing they’re close to that point already.”

[ThrobProng]

A retractable-roof stadium with 100,000 seats. Preferably not in its current terrible location. Aesthetically, it should bear at least a passing resemblance to the current Arrowhead. Arrowhead on steroids, so to speak.

There's no way any top-notch NFL stadium is getting built for less than $2 billion.

[srvy]

There are concrete buildings and structures all over the world well over 100 years old and in fantastic condition.

[louie aguiar]

People were so underwhelmed by these plans. I’m shocked that this is the best they could come up with. I think this really helped the no vote. It doesn’t enhance the game day experience for 95% of fans.

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— Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) April 3, 2024