Chiefs sign DE Jerry Tillery

[SAGA45]

I like him!!

Jerry Tillery was ejected after this hit on Justin Herbert out of bounds 😳
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[Iconic]

Wanted us to draft him. He's been a solid rotational piece in the league. Great pick up.

[JPH83]

If Tillery is here to take Nnadi's snaps, and those previously given to guys like Dickerson, then I think it's a solid move. He offers more, even as a run-stuffer, than Nnadi.

If, alongside Tillery, they draft a DT and DE within the first 3 picks. Great, solid rebuild. Even better if Omenihu stops being delusional and comes back at a reasonable cost (which, I suspect, he won't).

The concern is if they do none of the above and think Tillery can take snaps from Omenihu and/or Wharton - he can't, he's proven he's not a reliable pass-rusher.

This will only happen imo if the relentless focus on DL "versatility" continues. That's how you get guys like Tillery and Omenihu. Players that aren't really strong enough to work as DTs, or quick and flexible enough to threaten as DEs.

I love Spags, but if there's one aspect of his preferences I find baffling, it's this. No idea why it's verboten to just grab a load of guys who do 1 thing really well. Get a proper NT who can't rush, get an undersized DT who can rush but not stop the run that well, get a DE that can set the edge, and another that can't but threatens with speed. Flexibility is wildly overrated when it becomes a room of tweeners.

My bet and hope is it's resolved this draft and the DL really is properly restocked. Would be amazed if it's not.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by JPH83

If Tillery is here to take Nnadi's snaps, and those previously given to guys like Dickerson, then I think it's a solid move. He offers more, even as a run-stuffer, than Nnadi.

If, alongside Tillery, they draft a DT and DE within the first 3 picks. Great, solid rebuild. Even better if Omenihu stops being delusional and comes back at a reasonable cost (which, I suspect, he won't).

The concern is if they do none of the above and think Tillery can take snaps from Omenihu and/or Wharton - he can't, he's proven he's not a reliable pass-rusher.

This will only happen imo if the relentless focus on DL "versatility" continues. That's how you get guys like Tillery and Omenihu. Players that aren't really strong enough to work as DTs, or quick and flexible enough to threaten as DEs.

I love Spags, but if there's one aspect of his preferences I find baffling, it's this. No idea why it's verboten to just grab a load of guys who do 1 thing really well. Get a proper NT who can't rush, get an undersized DT who can rush but not stop the run that well, get a DE that can set the edge, and another that can't but threatens with speed. Flexibility is wildly overrated when it becomes a room of tweeners.

My bet and hope is it's resolved this draft and the DL really is properly restocked. Would be amazed if it's not.

He likes it because he can do different things without tipping his hand. Granted, when looked at individually, those things aren't as "good" as they could be because of tweener skill sets, but there is a perceived net gain in being multiple.

I don't agree, necessarily, with it either. I'd much rather see a couple of guys that are good 3Ts, a couple that are good NTs, a couple of SDEs, and a couple of WDEs, and 1 or 2 flex guys. But that's not what we get. We get a bunch of WTF, Chris, and George.

I can't complain too damned much given that what Spags does works. It just seems he makes it unnecessarily difficult on himself to have his D generate consistent pressure.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I don't agree, necessarily, with it either. I'd much rather see a couple of guys that are good 3Ts, a couple that are good NTs, a couple of SDEs, and a couple of WDEs, and 1 or 2 flex guys. But that's not what we get. We get a bunch of WTF, Chris, and George.

I can't complain too damned much given that what Spags does works. It just seems he makes it unnecessarily difficult on himself to have his D generate consistent pressure.

I'm not a fan at all of the style or individual players. Always seems like we give up more yards and points than we should considering the circumstances.

That said, in the moments we have to have a stop, we get it. His strategy is sound. It works. He wins. Spags ****s with QB's and OC's and wins.

Do yer' thing Spags.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by kccrow

He likes it because he can do different things without tipping his hand. Granted, when looked at individually, those things aren't as "good" as they could be because of tweener skill sets, but there is a perceived net gain in being multiple.

I don't agree, necessarily, with it either. I'd much rather see a couple of guys that are good 3Ts, a couple that are good NTs, a couple of SDEs, and a couple of WDEs, and 1 or 2 flex guys. But that's not what we get. We get a bunch of WTF, Chris, and George.

I can't complain too damned much given that what Spags does works. It just seems he makes it unnecessarily difficult on himself to have his D generate consistent pressure.

Yeah, I get the reasoning, I just don't think it actually does allow Spags to be as crafty as he thinks. Fine, switch the DE and DT etc, but really all the opposition has to do is ask themselves "where is Jones?" and they're good.

But yeah, can't complain given how it all ends up.

[SHOWTIME]

He's still in the league? Seems like he was drafted a decade ago

[neech]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

He's still in the league? Seems like he was drafted a decade ago

We can name him grandpa Tillery or just gramps for short.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by neech

We can name him grandpa Tillery or just gramps for short.

He's only 28...I must be thinking of someone else that played for the Chargers.

[Chargem]

Have we seen a dollar amount on this yet? Assuming he's cheap, I am fine with this. Average ish player to eat up some snaps for cheap is fine by me.

I still hope the long term answers on the Dline come in the draft.

[RunKC]

Honestly this may be a sign Omenihu isn’t coming back. And based upon his tweets he thinks he deserves big money.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Honestly this may be a sign Omenihu isn’t coming back. And based upon his tweets he thinks he deserves big money.

Our only hope of resigning him was the market telling him you are not worth that number.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Honestly this may be a sign Omenihu isn’t coming back. And based upon his tweets he thinks he deserves big money.

He’s delusional. Put a full season together first dude.

That said I would love to have his motivated ass on this roster and I suspect he will come crawling back soon. If we don’t bring him back, hopefully that’s a sign they think FAU is ready for a big role. Otherwise, we need him or an early draft pick.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

He’s delusional. Put a full season together first dude.

That said I would love to have his motivated ass on this roster and I suspect he will come crawling back soon. If we don’t bring him back, hopefully that’s a sign they think FAU is ready for a big role. Otherwise, we need him or an early draft pick.

Absolutely this, and also wildly overrated. I'd have him back fairly cheap because we badly need the DL reinforced. But if he wants a lot, sorry, you've not earned it. With or without him, we need an early DE draft pick.

[jdubya]

Raiders picked him up off waivers and then released him a year or two later.