Chiefsplanet B-17 Crew Assignments and Aircraft Naming

[Rain Man]

Okay, everyone. You've been drafted, you've been through basic training, and now you're in England. Your crew assignments are posted below. If you volunteered for duty, please check to be sure your name is on here. If not, let me know ASAP.

If you're not on here and didn't volunteer, but would like to join a crew, let me know and I can add you to the replacement crew list.

Pilots, please note: tradition dictates that you name your aircraft. Please submit a name in the next 24 hours. (I've got a bookmark to a website of real B-17 names, but of course it's down right now.)

Crew assignments were made according to post count, with the most posts equating to the highest position on the plane. Your crew was therefore determined by simply working down the list of posters (with some additions at the end for those who volunteered for service), so it's more or less random. No complaining about who you have to sit next to.

Ready?

Aircraft #1

Pilot Rausch
Copilot Gaz
Bombardier noswad
Navigator milkman
Engineer FloridaChief
Radio Op. DanT
Tail Gunner FringeNC
Ball Turret Gunner Valiant
Right Waist Gunner jettio
Left Waist Gunner chi3fs

Aircraft #2

Pilot Phobia
Copilot siberian khatru
Bombardier ROYC75
Navigator ®®
Engineer Saggysack
Radio Op. WisChief
Tail Gunner Mi_chief_fan
Ball Turret Gunner cheeeefs
Right Waist Gunner mizzou5
Left Waist Gunner ChiefJustice

Aircraft #3 (Look for the plane with the "Give peace a chance" bumper sticker.)

Pilot Logical
Copilot memyselfi
Bombardier Hoover
Navigator The Bad Guy
Engineer JimNasium
Radio Op. BigChiefDave
Tail Gunner kcnut
Ball Turret Gunner Ecto-I
Right Waist Gunner Warrior5
Left Waist Gunner cntrygal

Aircraft #4

Pilot KCWolfman
Copilot Lattimer
Bombardier Slayer Diablo
Navigator go bo
Engineer KCJohnny
Radio Op. Redcoats58
Tail Gunner voyager
Ball Turret Gunner munkey
Right Waist Gunner TheFly
Left Waist Gunner cdcox

Aircraft #5

Pilot ENDelt260
Copilot SNR
Bombardier Garcia Bronco
Navigator philfree
Engineer Talisman
Radio Op. AJKCFAN
Tail Gunner Radar Chief
Ball Turret Gunner hawaiianboy
Right Waist Gunner Scaga
Left Waist Gunner johnnyv13

Aircraft #6

Pilot frazod
Copilot raiderhader
Bombardier headsnap
Navigator KC-CHIEFS-FAN-TX
Engineer JazzzLovr
Radio Op. Alphaman
Tail Gunner CosmicPal
Ball Turret Gunner redbrian
Right Waist Gunner Chief Henry
Left Waist Gunner kcfanintitanhell

Aircraft #7

Pilot htismaqe
Copilot Bwana
Bombardier jAZ
Navigator jiveturkey
Engineer 58Forever
Radio Op. fbal4lif32
Tail Gunner SDChiefsfan
Ball Turret Gunner KC Dan
Right Waist Gunner ExtremeChief
Left Waist Gunner trndobrd

Aircraft #8

Pilot MrBlond
Copilot HC_Chief
Bombardier papasmurf
Navigator Chiefnj
Engineer Cochise
Radio Op. KS Smitty
Tail Gunner ndbbm
Ball Turret Gunner JefChef
Right Waist Gunner T-post Tom
Left Waist Gunner 6Iron

Aircraft #9

Pilot keg in kc
Copilot First Down Elvis
Bombardier Mark M
Navigator Coogs
Engineer ptlyon
Radio Op. Zebedee DuBois
Tail Gunner Otter
Ball Turret Gunner sportsshrink
Right Waist Gunner PunkinDrublic
Left Waist Gunner MiketheWildcat

Aircraft #10 (I think this aircraft will be quite lucky.)

Pilot Rain Man
Copilot tk13
Bombardier ChiTown
Navigator whoman69
Engineer Pitt Gorilla
Radio Op. KC Jones
Tail Gunner Duck Dog
Ball Turret Gunner DrNick
Right Waist Gunner Cormac
Left Waist Gunner The Rick

Aircraft #11

Pilot JOhn
Copilot Bob_Damned_Dole
Bombardier bkkcoh
Navigator WilliamTheIrish
Engineer Dartgod
Radio Op. ck_IN
Tail Gunner grandllama
Ball Turret Gunner CASHMAN
Right Waist Gunner Slim_Shady
Left Waist Gunner penchief

Aircraft #12 (Obviously on loan from the Soviets or something)

Pilot Taco John
Copilot Mile High Mania
Bombardier Joe Seahawk
Navigator BigChiefFan
Engineer ZachKC
Radio Op. Archie F. Swin
Tail Gunner suds79
Ball Turret Gunner oleman47
Right Waist Gunner RJ
Left Waist Gunner KC2003

Aircraft #13

Pilot DaWolf
Copilot LVNHACK
Bombardier the Talking Can
Navigator Ugly Duck
Engineer Eric Draven
Radio Op. shakesthecat
Tail Gunner Simplex3
Ball Turret Gunner mikey23545
Right Waist Gunner theultimatekcchiefsfan
Left Waist Gunner bunnytrdr

Aircraft #14

Pilot Psicosis
Copilot KCTitus
Bombardier Clint in Wichita
Navigator 2bikemike
Engineer Fat Elvis
Radio Op. chief52
Tail Gunner old_geezer
Ball Turret Gunner chiefsfan58
Right Waist Gunner RINGLEADER
Left Waist Gunner patteeu

Aircraft #15

Pilot Special Ed
Copilot KcMizzou
Bombardier Bearcat
Navigator alanm
Engineer gh4chiefs
Radio Op. mcan
Tail Gunner seclark
Ball Turret Gunner Luzap
Right Waist Gunner redhed
Left Waist Gunner ChiefGator

Aircraft #16

Pilot BIG_DADDY
Copilot Skip Towne
Bombardier RedNeckRaider
Navigator CHIEF4EVER
Engineer jcroft
Radio Op. Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan
Tail Gunner Cannibal
Ball Turret Gunner Over-Head
Right Waist Gunner bishop_74
Left Waist Gunner CanadaKC

Aircraft #17

Pilot lazarus
Copilot morphius
Bombardier EBOLA
Navigator Hydrae
Engineer BrainCase
Radio Op. nmt1
Tail Gunner brent102fire
Ball Turret Gunner mmaddog
Right Waist Gunner DaKCMan AP
Left Waist Gunner Chief Roundup

Aircraft #18

Pilot NaptownChief
Copilot tommykat
Bombardier PastorMikH
Navigator Mr. Christopher
Engineer B2chiefsfan
Radio Op. Adam
Tail Gunner Amnorix
Ball Turret Gunner KC Kings
Right Waist Gunner el borracho
Left Waist Gunner NewChief

Aircraft #19 (Great name for a Ball Turret Gunner there.)

Pilot Baby Lee
Copilot Brock Landers
Bombardier Boozer
Navigator Sure-Oz
Engineer BigOlChiefsfan
Radio Op. Gunther_Fan
Tail Gunner California Injun
Ball Turret Gunner Lightning Rod
Right Waist Gunner LegitimusGrim
Left Waist Gunner Chief Faithful

Aircraft #20

Pilot DenverChief
Copilot Iowanian
Bombardier Sky
Navigator Lzen
Engineer AustinChief
Radio Op. Michael Michigan
Tail Gunner DJay23
Ball Turret Gunner UMKC 1L
Right Waist Gunner mlyonsd
Left Waist Gunner PennyWise

[Zebedee DuBois]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

When I ran my simulations, it was 95 percent over 25 missions. Best of luck to you.

So after 25 missions, you would expect one of the twenty planes to survive? Does the fact that we don't have replacement aircraft factor in? What I mean is, 20 planes fly out the first day, and 16 come back. 20% mortality. If 16 planes go out the next day, 20% mortality means 3 (3.2) planes buy it. Doesn' the fact that fewer planes go out each day mean that you have a greater and greater chance of cashing out? Based on fewer numbers rather than total number of missions?

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Sweet.....me and der Gaz sit in relative comfort.....

I'm not sure that as a Pilot you should be that comfortable with a guy who takes bubble baths...



mmaddog
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[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by frazod

Yeah, and guess what we're bombing first....

I've already been busy working out plans for setting 1 or 2 bombs aside every mission to use on France. While Denver will be a bit more difficult due to location, I think we can figure a way to get it done.

[Zebedee DuBois]

Aircraft #9

Pilot keg in kc
Copilot First Down Elvis
Bombardier Mark M
Navigator Coogs
Engineer ptlyon
Radio Op. Zebedee DuBois
Tail Gunner Otter
Ball Turret Gunner sportsshrink
Right Waist Gunner PunkinDrublic
Left Waist Gunner MiketheWildcat


I might suggest the name. Nattering Nabobs of Napalm if it is OK to use mixed war references.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by ENDelt260

What are you doing Garcia?

Dropin bombs...dropin bombs.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois

So after 25 missions, you would expect one of the twenty planes to survive? Does the fact that we don't have replacement aircraft factor in? What I mean is, 20 planes fly out the first day, and 16 come back. 20% mortality. If 16 planes go out the next day, 20% mortality means 3 (3.2) planes buy it. Doesn' the fact that fewer planes go out each day mean that you have a greater and greater chance of cashing out? Based on fewer numbers rather than total number of missions?

The 95 percent factor was based on my running of simulations for 23 planes with 230 crew members. Of those 230 crew members, 12 survived through 25 missions, and the most of which who survived on one individual crew was four. I think that one or two actual aircraft survived, but I don't have the papers in front of me to check. Some of the crew members survived 25 missions by bailing out of a crashing plane and then joining another crew.

Our numbers may vary, though, because I'll shuffle the missions and won't fly them again in the same order and aircraft lineup.

In real terms, I think this mortality is probably somewhat accurate if the loss rates from the early days of the Air War held up. In WWII, though, the losses to German fighters over time meant that the survival rate was actually very high from early 1944 on. I guess for simulation purposes we can assume that our missions are in 1943.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Dropin bombs...dropin bombs.

Excited for our bombing runs?

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by raiderhader

I've already been busy working out plans for setting 1 or 2 bombs aside every mission to use on France. While Denver will be a bit more difficult due to location, I think we can figure a way to get it done.

Denver will be easy to find.

Look for the mountains, follow the smell.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by frazod

Denver will be easy to find.

Look for the mountains, follow the smell.

It's not finding it that is the problem, it's getting from England to Colorado that presents a problem. Logistics and the military considering us AWOL and trying to take us down is more of what I was thinking of.

But like I said, we'll find away to get it done.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by raiderhader

It's not finding it that is the problem, it's getting from England to Colorado that presents a problem. Logistics and the military considering us AWOL and trying to take us down is more of what I was thinking of.

But like I said, we'll find away to get it done.

England? My plane will be based in KC.

[Rain Man]

Denver might get you shot, but the nice thing is that France is still occupied at this point, so you get to bomb France a lot.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Denver might get you shot, but the nice thing is that France is still occupied at this point, so you get to bomb France a lot.

I WANT TO BOMB DENVER, DAMMIT!

I'll use the big white mule as a reference point.

[Rain Man]

Maybe Garcia was just posting a rhetorical question.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by frazod

England? My plane will be based in KC.

I had not been informed of this. It is very good news though.


A bombing we will go,
A bombing we will go,
Boom goes the Invesco
A bombing we will go!

[Zebedee DuBois]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

The 95 percent factor was based on my running of simulations for 23 planes with 230 crew members. Of those 230 crew members, 12 survived through 25 missions, and the most of which who survived on one individual crew was four. I think that one or two actual aircraft survived, but I don't have the papers in front of me to check. Some of the crew members survived 25 missions by bailing out of a crashing plane and then joining another crew.

Our numbers may vary, though, because I'll shuffle the missions and won't fly them again in the same order and aircraft lineup.

In real terms, I think this mortality is probably somewhat accurate if the loss rates from the early days of the Air War held up. In WWII, though, the losses to German fighters over time meant that the survival rate was actually very high from early 1944 on. I guess for simulation purposes we can assume that our missions are in 1943.

So, the twenty Chiefsplanet crews are not a squadron unto themselves. We are just 20 planes in the Allied arsenel that may fly any mission, with countless other crews. Is that correct. If I look out the window of my plane, I won't likely see Frazod in the next plane over trying to go to Denver. I might see some poor frightened unknown radio man wondering if he'll ever see his wife again and if she will ever learn to work the stick shift in the Hudson.