Your grade of each individual pick in our draft.

[veist]

Why do I keep seeing people suggesting we should have drafted Jamon Meredith the scouting report for him reads basically word for word as the one on Barry Richardson. Lacks motivation, lacks a mean streak.

[SBK]

I'm the only guy here who liked our 5th round pick aren't I?

[alpha_omega]

Wow...not too many Colin Brown fans around here huh?

I am still of the opinion that a draft can't be graded for 3 seasons.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by alpha_omega

Wow...not too many Colin Brown fans around here huh?

I am still of the opinion that a draft can't be graded for 3 seasons.

I dunno..he's enormous. Easily the biggest guy on our roster, and he's smart and has a mean streak. I think everyone is just pissed on the round he was drafted in, and not the actual pick. If we take him in the 6th round,or with any of our 3 7th rounders I don't think anyone is complaining.

It's just the general consensus that there were a ton of "better" options available at the time. In all honesty, it's a 5th round pick FFS. It doesn't matter who you pick up in the 5th, they're pretty much gonna flame out the majority of the time.

Anything past round 3 is pretty much a gamble.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

It's just the general consensus that there were a ton of "better" options available at the time. In all honesty, it's a 5th round pick FFS. It doesn't matter who you pick up in the 5th, they're pretty much gonna flame out the majority of the time.

Anything past round 3 is pretty much a gamble.

This is absolutely false.

Bad teams don't do a good job of drafting beyond the first three rounds.

Good teams do it every single draft. Whether it's the Eagles, Giants, Ravens, Patriots or Steelers, every one of those teams draft extremely well throughout the entire draft and is the main reason why those teams vie for championships each and every year.

Shitty teams like the Raiders, Chiefs, Lions, etc. continually draft poorly or don't make good use of the draft (i.e. via trades, etc.).

There was a times when the NFL draft extended through 8 rounds and even 12 rounds. UDFA's are extremely important as well.

[chiefs1111]

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

I dunno..he's enormous. Easily the biggest guy on our roster, and he's smart and has a mean streak. I think everyone is just pissed on the round he was drafted in, and not the actual pick. If we take him in the 6th round,or with any of our 3 7th rounders I don't think anyone is complaining.

It's just the general consensus that there were a ton of "better" options available at the time. In all honesty, it's a 5th round pick FFS. It doesn't matter who you pick up in the 5th, they're pretty much gonna flame out the majority of the time.

Anything past round 3 is pretty much a gamble.

Really people are pissed because the Chiefs took a guy in the 5th who they could have signed as a rookie Free Agent instead. There was still some good players at that spot we could of had instead...

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by chiefs1111

Really people are pissed because the Chiefs took a guy in the 5th who they could have signed as a rookie Free Agent instead. There was still some good players at that spot we could of had instead...

Nobody really knows who would fall and who wouldn't. A day after the Raiders took their 2nd round pick that Kiper and everyone else said was a 7th rounder or UDFA, the news broke that Chicago was on the phone telling the kid they were going to take him in the 2nd.

[bdeg]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Nobody really knows who would fall and who wouldn't. A day after the Raiders took their 2nd round pick that Kiper and everyone else said was a 7th rounder or UDFA, the news broke that Chicago was on the phone telling the kid they were going to take him in the 2nd.

i have heard these rumors, do you have a link to support them?? one which cites the source of the info please

[bdeg]

sounds like damage control by the raiders to me

anyone else think it was kinda funny how CP said he almost traded up for Turk McBride when in reality Cleveland jumped us to get Eric Wright, who many would've guessed would've been our pick. I think he was worried it looked like a reach so to remove the pick from scrutiny he claimed their evaluation was so high they were tempted to trade up, when in reality it would've made no sense unless they hated Wright(doubt it).

[Chiefnj2]

usatoday:

Criticism of Raiders' second-round pick off-base?
By Sean Leahy, USA TODAY
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The Raiders have taken some criticism among draft analysts for selecting Ohio safety Michael Mitchell with the 47th overall pick. (They also surprised many by taking Maryland WR Darrius Heyward-Bey with the seventh pick.)

Several analysts said on ESPN and the NFL Network last night that they knew little about Mitchell. The NFLN's Mike Mayock suggested Mitchell was a late-round pick at best.

But it turns out the Raiders may have had good reason to select Mitchell at 47. The Bears told Mitchell they planned to take him with the 49th overall pick.

"When (the Bears) did that, I was like, 'I'm going to be a Chicago Bear,' " Mitchell told reporters in a conference call. "That's what I was thinking."

Bears GM Jerry Angelo ended up trading the 49th pick to Seattle after Mitchell went to Oakland. He didn't confirm his interest in Mitchell, but acknowledged he missed out on his target player.

"Unfortunately the players we targeted at 49 did not fall to us," Angelo told reporters, "and we weren't in a position that we were able to move up -- we just didn't have enough."
Hat tip: Chicago Tribune

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by arc

Later in the week during a draft wrap up show, Kiper said that Chicago is denying they ever told the kid they would take him in the second and said they had planned on looking at him in the 5th. May be damage control - who knows?

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

usatoday:

Criticism of Raiders' second-round pick off-base?
By Sean Leahy, USA TODAY
Buzz up!Buzz up!
Like this story? Share it with Yahoo! Buzz

The Raiders have taken some criticism among draft analysts for selecting Ohio safety Michael Mitchell with the 47th overall pick. (They also surprised many by taking Maryland WR Darrius Heyward-Bey with the seventh pick.)

Several analysts said on ESPN and the NFL Network last night that they knew little about Mitchell. The NFLN's Mike Mayock suggested Mitchell was a late-round pick at best.

But it turns out the Raiders may have had good reason to select Mitchell at 47. The Bears told Mitchell they planned to take him with the 49th overall pick.

"When (the Bears) did that, I was like, 'I'm going to be a Chicago Bear,' " Mitchell told reporters in a conference call. "That's what I was thinking."

Bears GM Jerry Angelo ended up trading the 49th pick to Seattle after Mitchell went to Oakland. He didn't confirm his interest in Mitchell, but acknowledged he missed out on his target player.

"Unfortunately the players we targeted at 49 did not fall to us," Angelo told reporters, "and we weren't in a position that we were able to move up -- we just didn't have enough."
Hat tip: Chicago Tribune

Just because Chicago was considering taking him there doesn't justify the stupidity of the pick.

Do you honestly believe that had Scott Pioli been in Oakland's position - where a guy he had rated as a very late round prospect was supposedly in danger of being taken in the 2nd round - that he would have completely ignored not only his draft board, but the value that goes with a 2nd round pick, all because Chicago might take him 4-5 rounds early?

No.

Way.

In.

Hell.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Just because Chicago was considering taking him there doesn't justify the stupidity of the pick.

Do you honestly believe that had Scott Pioli been in Oakland's position - where a guy he had rated as a very late round prospect was supposedly in danger of being taken in the 2nd round - that he would have completely ignored not only his draft board, but the value that goes with a 2nd round pick, all because Chicago might take him 4-5 rounds early?

No.

Way.

In.

Hell.

Who says Oakland ignored their draft board? It is possible that NFL teams actually disagree with Mayock and Kiper (and thus 99% of all the other internet gurus who copy them). It is possible that 2 NFL teams had him rated as a 2nd round talent.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Just because Chicago was considering taking him there doesn't justify the stupidity of the pick.

Do you honestly believe that had Scott Pioli been in Oakland's position - where a guy he had rated as a very late round prospect was supposedly in danger of being taken in the 2nd round - that he would have completely ignored not only his draft board, but the value that goes with a 2nd round pick, all because Chicago might take him 4-5 rounds early?

No.

Way.

In.

Hell.

well, given that Pioli has already been declared a failure and his draft a disgrace...wouldn't your answer be "yes"?

[CupidStunt]

Need a towel, Dane? Or do you enjoy people pissing all over you?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

Need a towel, Dane? Or do you enjoy people pissing all over you?

What the **** are you talking about?

You're just another in a long line of pricks who don't add a ****ing thing to the Draft Forum. You just chastise and criticize others for their opinions and beliefs.

**** you, your Mother, your Father, your brothers, your sisters (I did) and anyone that looks like you.

****ing miserable ****.