Replacing Gonzalez proving to be a chore in K.C.

[RustShack]

Engram is our new Gonzalez, he just plays at a position Haley wants to use instead of TE.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by RustShack

Engram is our new Gonzalez, he just plays at a position Haley wants to use instead of TE.

Which is fine. I'm not suggesting that we rely on a Tight End to give us WR-type production.

But with Engram being only half as productive at the position...it pressurize Bowe's situation.

I'm excited about Engram, but I believe his biggest contribution will be on Third Downs. I'm looking for someone who can stretch the field and give Engram the middle part of the field to work with.

[Halfcan]

Losing Tony G will be huge for the Chiefs-pretty dumb move on their part.

[acesn8s]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Losing Tony G will be huge for the Chiefs-pretty dumb move on their part.

I disagree. I think it forces the rest of the team to step up. I think we will be better for it.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by acesn8s

I disagree. I think it forces the rest of the team to step up. I think we will be better for it.

Shit is still shit even if it steps up...

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't understand the move.

You spent a 2nd round pick on a QB. You should do everything in your power to surround him with as many weapons as possible so he can succeed.

If Cassel doesn't light it up in the first few weeks, I can tell you what will happen. The fans will turn on him, will boo him off the field, and will scream for Thigpen to start. I wish it weren't true, but it's the sad reality.

And trading away your #1 target and not doing much to shore up the o-line doesn't help Cassel.

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't understand the move.

You spent a 2nd round pick on a QB. You should do everything in your power to surround him with as many weapons as possible so he can succeed.

If Cassel doesn't light it up in the first few weeks, I can tell you what will happen. The fans will turn on him, will boo him off the field, and will scream for Thigpen to start. I wish it weren't true, but it's the sad reality.

And trading away your #1 target and not doing much to shore up the o-line doesn't help Cassel.

If that is true then Chief fans are dumb****s and Haley is a failure for listening to fans.
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[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

If that is true then Chief fans are dumb****s and Haley is a failure for listening to fans.
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Um that's what fans do, a bunch of people thought Thigpen was the answer. If Cassel isn't awesome people are going to go nuts.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

If that is true then Chief fans are dumb****s and Haley is a failure for listening to fans.
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I fall somewhere in the middle of his take, but you'll never see me "screaming for Thigpen" unless it involves getting his attention to keep him from getting run over by a moving vehicle or some such scenario.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't understand the move.

You spent a 2nd round pick on a QB. You should do everything in your power to surround him with as many weapons as possible so he can succeed.

If Cassel doesn't light it up in the first few weeks, I can tell you what will happen. The fans will turn on him, will boo him off the field, and will scream for Thigpen to start. I wish it weren't true, but it's the sad reality.

And trading away your #1 target and not doing much to shore up the o-line doesn't help Cassel.

OK we trade a 2nd round pick, we get a franchise QB in his 20's AND a seasoned veteran who is one of the best at his position in a scheme we are switching to.

We trade an old TE for a second round pick, TE is also a position of little value and even less in our new scheme considering we won't use it very often.

QB has a lot more value that TE, LB is also more valuable not to mention BOTH. Gonzalez himself didn't even think anyone would trade a 2nd round pick for him.

Engram brings exactly the same thing Gonzalez does, just at a position our new offense will utilize.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by RustShack

OK we trade a 2nd round pick, we get a franchise QB in his 20's AND a seasoned veteran who is one of the best at his position in a scheme we are switching to.

We trade an old TE for a second round pick, TE is also a position of little value and even less in our new scheme considering we won't use it very often.

QB has a lot more value that TE, LB is also more valuable not to mention BOTH. Gonzalez himself didn't even think anyone would trade a 2nd round pick for him.

Engram brings exactly the same thing Gonzalez does, just at a position our new offense will utilize.

Engram=TG??? really I think the stats would disagree.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Engram=TG??? really I think the stats would disagree.

I think he means that Engram's hands are just as reliable.
And I agree... I just think he plays a different position, the slot, and won't give us the kind of everydown contribution that Gonzalez did.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Engram=TG??? really I think the stats would disagree.

Gonzo does basically what Engram does from another position. Neither are deep threats, they are sure hands when you need it in the middle of the field. If Engram was always on a poor team where he was forced to be to top threat then the stats would agree.

[Jethopper]

The best player at his position ever will be hard to replace?

[Mecca]

That's fine in theory we just don't have those receivers at the moment.