Leach Fired

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by billay

He had a concussion you stupid ****

and?

Pretty sure he wasn't told he couldn't sleep because of a mild concussion.

I'd nap the shit out of that dark room...use my pads as a pillow...beats the shit out of being scout team at practice.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Hootie

and?

Pretty sure he wasn't told he couldn't sleep because of a mild concussion.

I'd nap the shit out of that dark room...use my pads as a pillow...beats the shit out of being scout team at practice.

According to an anonymous source he wasn't allowed to lean against anything or sit. At one point it was deemed the electrical closed was too loud so they took him to an office in the press box and removed all the furniture in the room so he couldn't sit. It is also reported by the same source that he was caught sitting on a cooler in the first closet and the coolers were removed so he couldn't sit. No link. It was reported on the radio as I drove in this morning.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

According to an anonymous source he wasn't allowed to lean against anything or sit. At one point it was deemed the electrical closed was too loud so they took him to an office in the press box and removed all the furniture in the room so he couldn't sit. It is also reported by the same source that he was caught sitting on a cooler in the first closet and the coolers were removed so he couldn't sit. No link. It was reported on the radio as I drove in this morning.

I'm pretty ****ing sure if this guy wanted to sit, he could have sat...or if he wanted to leave, he could have left...

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Hootie

and?

Pretty sure he wasn't told he couldn't sleep because of a mild concussion.

If the coach thought he had head trauma wherein there was a risk the student would slip into a coma if he fell asleep, then he should have immediately sent him to the hospital for observation.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by billay

He had a concussion you stupid ****

Again, what I'd guess was happening was that he was angling to being asked to stand and watch practice with the team, which doesn't seem unreasonable. He then claimed the sun was bothering him (entirely possible) so the coach told him to go into a nearby room where the sunlight couldn't bother him, and continue to stand up like he would have had he been able to stay on the filed.

That's speculation, but seems pretty straightfoward and if true, perfectly reasonable way to handle a player you think is a slacker who's got a reputation among the team as a primadona who's not putting in a full effort, and who also happens to have a concussion.

I don't get the impression that having a player stand for 3 hours which a concussion is horrible. If so, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the field to begin with.

And if there was some medical harm in having him stand, and Leach should have known (was told and ignored dr's advice, etc) then he should be held accountable.

But just having had a concussion doesn't seem like standing for 3 hours is unacceptable behavior.

[beer bacon]

Originally Posted by Hootie

omg though, lets be honest...

it was a ****ing equipiment room...or a closet...omg

he was locked in a dark room for 3 hours!?

oh geez, that's life threatening!

He wasn't even physically locked in the room as far as I can tell. He was "isolated" in a dark room. Isolated in the sense that he was told he would be suspended or kicked off the team if he left the room while the team was practicing.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by beer bacon

He wasn't even physically locked in the room as far as I can tell. He was "isolated" in a dark room. Isolated in the sense that he was told he would be suspended or kicked off the team if he left the room while the team was practicing.

And this is acceptable treatment of a concussed individual? Leach has the service of a top-notch medical staff. He should have turned the athlete over to the medical staff instead of trying to make an example out of him. Instead it is Leach being made an example. I'll bet Leach won't try to make an example out of a concussed kid at his next job.

[beer bacon]

Originally Posted by vailpass

And this is acceptable treatment of a concussed individual? Leach has the service of a top-notch medical staff. He should have turned the athlete over to the medical staff instead of trying to make an example out of him. Instead it is Leach being made an example. I'll bet Leach won't try to make an example out of a concussed kid at his next job.

Uhhh..

http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories...40556326.shtml

Liggett said while James was secluded on two occasions, he was not treated inappropriately and had a doctor's statement attesting to that.

"There's much, much more than meets the eye,'' Liggett said. "The diagnosing doctor has signed a note stating that Adam James was in no way injured by the actions coach Leach took. In fact, he was better off in the building than he would have been outside."

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by beer bacon

Uhhh..

http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories...40556326.shtml

No. I said turn him over to the medical staff if you want him off the field then LEAVE HIM ALONE.
Not turn him over to the medical staff then act like a complete mental reject and stick the kid in a dark room under threat of retaliation should he wish to leave the room. Constructive kidnapping is not okay just because you called the doctor first.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by beer bacon

He wasn't even physically locked in the room as far as I can tell. He was "isolated" in a dark room. Isolated in the sense that he was told he would be suspended or kicked off the team if he left the room while the team was practicing.

AND it was guarded.

Why are you making light of this incident?

It's ****ing bullshit and the coach deserved to be fired.

PERIOD.

You CANNOT having coaches on a university campus treating students in this manner.

[beer bacon]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

AND it was guarded.

Why are you making light of this incident?

It's ****ing bullshit and the coach deserved to be fired.

PERIOD.

You CANNOT having coaches on a university campus treating students in this manner.

Yeah, players attending practice is downright awful.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by beer bacon

Yeah, players attending practice is downright awful.

It is amazing how people will compromise their values to support a team.
There are two kinds of people in this discussion: those who can clearly see that Leach crossed the line and comitted a wrongful act and Texas Tech fans.

[Hootie]

I would have laid down and taken a nap...

[tk13]

Maybe the truth will come out eventually... but this seems to be a lot different than the Mangino situation. When the floodgates opened it seemed like all the past players spoke out against Mangino. In this situation you have one player alleging something against a coach, and most of the former players and coaches are backing the coach and talking about the player's past histrionics.

I also don't think this is even close to the worst thing that goes on in collegiate practices, in any sport. I'm not sure if it's even that big of a deal, but we don't know all the details. But that's a different discussion.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by tk13

I also don't think this is even close to the worst thing that goes on in collegiate practices, in any sport. I'm not sure if it's even that big of a deal, but we don't know all the details. But that's a different discussion.

Proof?