Haley thinks Cassel's problem was the players around him

[DeezNutz]

With the first overall pick, the St. Louis Rams select, Sam Bradford, individual who challenged for the starting QB job, University of Oklahoma.

[BigMeatballDave]

I think with the players we've added and him having a real OC, he SHOULD show marked improvement. Especially if JC can continue what he did last season. I'm hopeful Cassel will improve, I'm just not confident that he can.

[el borracho]

I guess we'll see this season. Can't say I have much faith in Cassel because the things I dislike the most about his game (weak arm and inaccuracy) are not correctable.

[whoman69]

I'm tired of the homers who back guys that should have been gone long before they left. We have Grob, CP, Herm, and add to that list Cassel. No more apologies for sucking. The fact that the guy had as low a completion percentage as he did while not throwing the ball downfield is atrocious. He has 70s type completion percentages throwing the ball only a third as far. And to blame all the drops for his problems overlooks the fact that many of the drops were his fault in not getting the ball where it needed to be, often low or behind his receivers. I'm giving him a short leash this year. If he can't get the job done we need to see how well Croyle had done in being able to build up his body to stay on the field.

[boogblaster]

Start Croyle ... I think ....

[Goldmember]

yeah it was, the defensive players around him

[Pioli Zombie]

Relax people. Even the great, hall of famer, ****y ****erson struggled in his first year with a rebuilding team.

[TRR]

It doesn't matter if Cassel played at USC or not. Or that Rob Johnson (who was immensely talented) or David Booty fizzled in the NFL. The bottom line is that you don't get to the NFL by being marginally talented. It doesn't happen.

Are there more talented QB's in the league than others? Sure there are. Either way, you are a hell of an athlete if your playing QB on the NFL level.

Quit acting like Joe arm chair is more talented because Cassel didn't start for USC, and because he had a down year in his first season with new receivers that changed every week, a revolving door in front of him, no running game till mid-season, a new offense 10 days before the season started, and a sprained MCL.

Yea I know...excuses. All I've ever said is don't be so quick to hang him.
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[milkman]

Originally Posted by TRR

It doesn't matter if Cassel played at USC or not. Or that Rob Johnson (who was immensely talented) or David Booty fizzled in the NFL. The bottom line is that you don't get to the NFL by being marginally talented. It doesn't happen.

Are there more talented QB's in the league than others? Sure there are. Either way, you are a hell of an athlete if your playing QB on the NFL level.

Quit acting like Joe arm chair is more talented because Cassel didn't start for USC, and because he had a down year in his first season with new receivers that changed every week, a revolving door in front of him, no running game till mid-season, a new offense 10 days before the season started, and a sprained MCL.

Yea I know...excuses. All I've ever said is don't be so quick to hang him.
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You're a dumbass.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by TRR

Quit acting like Joe arm chair is more talented

NO ONE is acting like that.

But compared to other quarterbacks, yes he has marginal talent.

[Rasputin]

So Haily is blaming the lack of tallent around Cassel, wander how that makes the rest of the team feel? Basically it's the lack of tallent that Haily inherited from Carl Peterson. Damnet Carl

If only we had tallent around Cassel, or like the scarecrow, "If only I had a brain"

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by milkman

You are disqualified to care then.

I don't give a rat's ass as to why, because I can't do anything about it.
I can only talk about it.

I do want it fixed.

I want a QB that can play with confidence in the pocket, and run only wehn it's actually necessary.

This.

Originally Posted by Brock

Using that logic, you're not a backup QB in the NFL without major talent, but the fact is most backups in the NFL suck when they actually play.

Or...they have one magical, Cinderella-like season and end up finding a home with some dumbass franchise that thrives on giving that kind of player a home...

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Relax people. Even the great, hall of famer, ****y ****erson struggled in his first year with a rebuilding team.

I love ****y.

[Cheater5]

I'm pretty much down with what TRR said. Like most of us, at times last year I shot up off the couch and threw my hat at the screen at many of the under/over thrown balls to open receivers-"Are you f#*king kidding me!?"...
HOWEVER I think Cassel walked into the perfect storm; what key factors can you check Y or N that ANY QB would have had in place on the '09 Chiefs? I am not a student of QBs and their mechanics/skills. And I'm not a Cassel homer. I'd start Croyle if he were 20lbs heavier- then maybe he wouldn't be as frail as chalk. But like any organization- it takes leadership (read: coaching) to truly change.

[Bane]

Originally Posted by Cheater5

I'm pretty much down with what TRR said. Like most of us, at times last year I shot up off the couch and threw my hat at the screen at many of the under/over thrown balls to open receivers-"Are you f#*king kidding me!?"...
HOWEVER I think Cassel walked into the perfect storm; what key factors can you check Y or N that ANY QB would have had in place on the '09 Chiefs? I am not a student of QBs and their mechanics/skills. And I'm not a Cassel homer. I'd start Croyle if he were 20lbs heavier- then maybe he wouldn't be as frail as chalk. But like any organization- it takes leadership (read: coaching) to truly change.

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