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Old 08-30-2010, 04:24 PM   #1
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So? Jarome Harrison is not going to get damn near 300 yards on us again.
Why not? How has the Chiefs front seven improved to the point where they won't be giving up a massive amount of rushing yardage?

Has Cleveland not improved their squad, either?

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And nothing has changed really since we beat the Steelers. So we can beat them again by your logic?
The Chiefs don't have a shot in hell to beat the Steelers with a healthy Polamalu (who didn't play that day) or a healthy Roethlisberger.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:27 PM   #2
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What has changed for the Chiefs that you expect them to go into Cleveland and beat them?

They were gashed for 300 yards on the ground in Week 16. What do you think has changed for this defense?
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:31 PM   #3
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Why not? How has the Chiefs front seven improved to the point where they won't be giving up a massive amount of rushing yardage?

Has Cleveland not improved their squad, either?
No, Dane. Only the Chiefs were allowed to "improve" this offseason



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Chiefs don't have a shot in hell to beat the Steelers with a healthy Polamalu (who didn't play that day) or a healthy Roethlisberger.
QFT, though Ben didn't get hurt until late. They just didn't play anywhere near their potential that day, and missing Troy surely didn't help.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:29 AM   #4
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The Chiefs don't have a shot in hell to beat the Steelers with a healthy Polamalu (who didn't play that day) or a healthy Roethlisberger.
Everybody gets excuses but the Chiefs.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:25 PM   #5
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So? Jarome Harrison is not going to get damn near 300 yards on us again.

And nothing has changed really since we beat the Steelers. So we can beat them again by your logic?
One, we're not playing the Steelers.

But to answer the question more broadly, if any team is asleep at the wheel come that given Sunday, then sure, we can win.

As much as I enjoyed that win, realistically, it was a perfect storm.

We played about as well as we were capable of playing, and Pittsburgh played about as bad as they were capable of playing.

That's going to have to happen several times for this team to win more than 6 games, IMO.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:24 PM   #6
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What has changed for the Chiefs that you expect them to go into Cleveland and beat them?

They were gashed for 300 yards on the ground in Week 16. What do you think has changed for this defense?
Quite a bit, actually. Magee/Gilberry were getting absolutely manhandled that game. Bringing Dorsey back will help considerably. Berry at Strong Safety is going to help us significantly, particularly in limiting the big play. The playcalling will be a lot better (don't know how good Romeo is, but it's a clear upgrade over Pendergast) and we'll at least make adjustments that keep us from getting gashed from the same play repeatedly.

I still have this as a loss, though, because the Browns can pass the ball this year and I think they have a decent defense. They're going to be better than a lot of people think.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:27 PM   #7
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Quite a bit, actually. Magee/Gilberry were getting absolutely manhandled that game. Bringing Dorsey back will help considerably. Berry at Strong Safety is going to help us significantly, particularly in limiting the big play. The playcalling will be a lot better (don't know how good Romeo is, but it's a clear upgrade over Pendergast) and we'll at least make adjustments that keep us from getting gashed from the same play repeatedly.

I still have this as a loss, though, because the Browns can pass the ball this year and I think they have a decent defense. They're going to be better than a lot of people think.
Well, this a part of the problem for the Chiefs, probably their second biggest problem behind QB: They have no depth. They don't have a legit NT and their DE's are average on a good day and well below average on a normal day.

Hali is a liability against run, as is DJ. This team will routinely give up HUGE rushing yardage this season because they just cannot stop anyone on the ground.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:34 PM   #8
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Well, this a part of the problem for the Chiefs, probably their second biggest problem behind QB: They have no depth. They don't have a legit NT and their DE's are average on a good day and well below average on a normal day.

Hali is a liability against run, as is DJ. This team will routinely give up HUGE rushing yardage this season because they just cannot stop anyone on the ground.
Depth is undoubtedly a big problem. But better than last year? Yeah. Shaun Smith is better depth than having nobody (how a team goes through an entire half of a season without a backup NT is headscratching). Gilberry is emerging as a pretty dangerous pass specialist. We will likely have better depth in our secondary by allowing Arenas to match up against slot receivers. And you would hope that this season, you'll start to see Studebaker become featured in a lot more pass plays (or just in general).

I don't think we'll routinely give up big yards. Our biggest problem last year was giving up the big play and I think we'll cut those down significantly. Apart from that ****-up on the McCoy 18-yard run, I thought it was one of the most disciplined games I've seen in a long time with our D-line. They finally were starting to get their gap assignments right, even if they weren't getting a ton of push. That to me, more than anything, was a major reason we were finally getting pressure on the QB when we chose to blitz.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:29 PM   #9
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Quite a bit, actually. Magee/Gilberry were getting absolutely manhandled that game. Bringing Dorsey back will help considerably. Berry at Strong Safety is going to help us significantly, particularly in limiting the big play. The playcalling will be a lot better (don't know how good Romeo is, but it's a clear upgrade over Pendergast) and we'll at least make adjustments that keep us from getting gashed from the same play repeatedly.

I still have this as a loss, though, because the Browns can pass the ball this year and I think they have a decent defense. They're going to be better than a lot of people think.
I'm so sick of hearing the Dorsey excuse.

You conveniently forget the rush totals against us when Dorsey WAS in the lineup:

198 to Baltimore
156 to the Giants
150 to Dallas
118 to Washington
135 to San Diego
173 to Jacksonville
182 to Oakland
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Old 12-24-2010, 10:54 AM   #10
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What has changed for the Chiefs that you expect them to go into Cleveland and beat them?

They were gashed for 300 yards on the ground in Week 16. What do you think has changed for this defense?

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1 Sep 13 SD @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 10:15 PM
2 Sep 19 KC @ CLE Cleveland Browns Stadium 1:00 PM
3 Sep 26 SF @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
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5 Oct 10 KC @ IND Lucas Oil Stadium 1:00 PM
6 Oct 17 KC @ HOU Reliant Stadium 1:00 PM
7 Oct 24 JAC @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
8 Oct 31 BUF @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK Oakland Coliseum 4:15 PM
10 Nov 14 KC @ DEN Invesco Field at Mile High 4:05 PM
11 Nov 21 ARI @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
12 Nov 28 KC @ SEA Qwest Field 4:05 PM
13 Dec 05 DEN @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
14 Dec 12 KC @ SD Qualcomm Stadium 4:15 PM
15 Dec 19 KC @ STL Edward Jones Dome 1:00 PM
16 Dec 26 TEN @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:28 PM   #12
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3 Sep 26 SF @ KC L
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6 Oct 17 KC @ HOU L
7 Oct 24 JAC @ KC L
8 Oct 31 BUF @ KC L
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK W
10 Nov 14 KC @ DEN L
11 Nov 21 ARI @ KC W
12 Nov 28 KC @ SEA L
13 Dec 05 DEN @ KC W
14 Dec 12 KC @ SD L
15 Dec 19 KC @ STL W
16 Dec 26 TEN @ KC L
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:29 PM   #13
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Wk Date Game Stadium Time (ET)
1 Sep 13 SD @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 10:15 PM
2 Sep 19 KC @ CLE Cleveland Browns Stadium 1:00 PM
3 Sep 26 SF @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
4 Bye
5 Oct 10 KC @ IND Lucas Oil Stadium 1:00 PM
6 Oct 17 KC @ HOU Reliant Stadium 1:00 PM
7 Oct 24 JAC @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
8 Oct 31 BUF @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK Oakland Coliseum 4:15 PM
10 Nov 14 KC @ DEN Invesco Field at Mile High 4:05 PM
11 Nov 21 ARI @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
12 Nov 28 KC @ SEA Qwest Field 4:05 PM
13 Dec 05 DEN @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
14 Dec 12 KC @ SD Qualcomm Stadium 4:15 PM
15 Dec 19 KC @ STL Edward Jones Dome 1:00 PM
16 Dec 26 TEN @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:29 PM   #14
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Question mark the jag game, could go either way. Based on that, best case 8-8 to 9-7
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:29 PM   #15
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6 Oct 17 KC @ HOU Loss
7 Oct 24 JAC @ KC Loss
8 Oct 31 BUF @ KC Win
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK Win
10 Nov 14 KC @ DEN Loss
11 Nov 21 ARI @ KC Loss
12 Nov 28 KC @ SEA Win
13 Dec 05 DEN @ KC Win
14 Dec 12 KC @ SD Loss
15 Dec 19 KC @ STL Loss
16 Dec 26 TEN @ KC Loss
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC Win


Doubtful they sweep Oakland you could replace 1 of the wins vs Okaland and with Arizona. 6-10.
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