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Old 03-19-2013, 10:06 AM   #1
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40 - 4.71
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40 - 4.59
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I believe those are Geno's unofficial stats. Combine stars are almost always worse.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:08 AM   #2
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I believe those are Geno's unofficial stats. Combine stars are almost always worse.
No....they're not.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:51 AM   #3
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means nothing ....... either way


we have no idea what they are really thinking. Their moves indicate OT at #1 but who the hell knows.

What any team says at this time of the year is worthless.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:52 AM   #4
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means nothing ....... either way


we have no idea what they are really thinking. Their moves indicate OT at #1 but who the hell knows.

What any team says at this time of the year is worthless.
All of their moves do not indicated OT at #1. It indicates that they really want to trade down.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:55 AM   #5
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All of their moves do not indicated OT at #1. It indicates that they really want to trade down.
However, there are no indications that a trade down is even possible.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:59 AM   #6
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All of their moves do not indicated OT at #1. It indicates that they really want to trade down.
They have made offseason moves that have left an starting spot at OT open in a draft where offensive line is supposedly one of the strongest positions.

They have traded 2 draft picks for a starting QB and spent 3 million for a backup QB. They have signed 2 cornerbacks and a wide receiver.

Will they trade down ... maybe, i imagine any team in the top 5 would consider trading down in this draft.

But their personnel moves indicate a OT at #1, unless you think they are drafting a MLB at 1.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:05 AM   #7
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They have made offseason moves that have left an starting spot at OT open in a draft where offensive line is supposedly one of the strongest positions.

They have traded 2 draft picks for a starting QB and spent 3 million for a backup QB. They have signed 2 cornerbacks and a wide receiver.

Will they trade down ... maybe, i imagine any team in the top 5 would consider trading down in this draft.

But their personnel moves indicate a OT at #1, unless you think they are drafting a MLB at 1.
As it stands right now (unless they trade him)....they have a hole at RT. They now have an OG/OT in Geoff Schwartz who has played RT before but will probably take over at OG. Allen played both LT and RT in college. TBG's source also stated that they view Allen as a RT.

What they have done is basically filled almost all of their needs so that they can go BPA. It's all going to come down to Reid and Dorsey though. They may view Geno as BPA....they may not.

And the picks/money they spent on QB already still do not eliminate Geno. The numbers have already been posted....but all 3 QBs would only cost them $14 million.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:22 AM   #8
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They have made offseason moves that have left an starting spot at OT open in a draft where offensive line is supposedly one of the strongest positions.

They have traded 2 draft picks for a starting QB and spent 3 million for a backup QB. They have signed 2 cornerbacks and a wide receiver.

Will they trade down ... maybe, i imagine any team in the top 5 would consider trading down in this draft.

But their personnel moves indicate a OT at #1, unless you think they are drafting a MLB at 1.
Who said OT is one of the strongest positions?

It's not deep at all and the top guys aren't elite level prospects by any measure.

2011 was a very good year for tackle prospects.

2010 was a very good year for tackle prospects.

2008 was a very good year for tackle prospects.

There is nobody that jumps off the charts this year and it's not that deep a class in terms of quality.

Personally, I think the best OT prospect in this class is Barrett Jones. Most of these other guys have a lot of warts or just have under performed.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:24 AM   #9
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Who said OT is one of the strongest positions?

It's not deep at all and the top guys aren't elite level prospects by any measure.

2011 was a very good year for tackle prospects.

2010 was a very good year for tackle prospects.

2008 was a very good year for tackle prospects.

There is nobody that jumps off the charts this year and it's not that deep a class in terms of quality.

Personally, I think the best OT prospect in this class is Barrett Jones. Most of these other guys have a lot of warts or just have under performed.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:57 AM   #10
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Can we just put this Geno stuff to bed? It's a done deal.

The Chiefs have made their evaluation of him. They don't think he's worth #1. There's a lot of fans here who do. Or think it's worth the risk.

Now we just sit back and find out over the next few years.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:59 AM   #11
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Are we in for a potential 3rd geno induced CP meltdown come draft day after they pass on him?!?!?!
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:01 AM   #12
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:28 AM   #13
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Are we in for a potential 3rd geno induced CP meltdown come draft day after they pass on him?!?!?!
It would be less sickening/disgusting then 80% of the fan base that loves an OT. They well swoon no matter what the Chiefs do. Anything less is high treason.
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:38 AM   #14
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It would be less sickening/disgusting then 80% of the fan base that loves an OT. They well swoon no matter what the Chiefs do. Anything less is high treason.
I don't know that I'll swoon no matter what they do, but I am willing to concede that Andy Freaking Reid probably knows more about quarterbacks than fans. Considering the moves Reid has made at the start of free agency (how long have we wanted the Chiefs to make moves at the START of free agency?!), I am willing to give him some fudging credit, for the love of fudge.
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:43 AM   #15
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I don't know that I'll swoon no matter what they do, but I am willing to concede that Andy Freaking Reid probably knows more about quarterbacks than fans. Considering the moves Reid has made at the start of free agency (how long have we wanted the Chiefs to make moves at the START of free agency?!), I am willing to give him some fudging credit, for the love of fudge.
But he apparently doesn't know a whole lot about the offensive line considering he seems bent on turning our line into the crap fest that was Philly's o-line.
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