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Old 09-04-2013, 11:21 AM   #1
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3,500 yards - 25 TD - 10 INT - 80 QBR - 56% Completion - and all 16 games started w/no injury

Is that performance worth the two 2nd round picks KC paid?

Also... would those numbers merit a contract extension and he then gets to groom his eventual replacement?
56% completion for an "accurate" QB like Smith, let alone any QB, would be a disaster. For comparison, Matt Cassel completed 58% of his passes last year.

Smith needs to be in the low 60's for completion percentage, especially in a Reid offense. Based on what Vick and McNabb have done in Reid's system, you'd be looking at 3100 yards, 23 TD's, 11 INT's, 60% completion, and considering Vick and McNabb's injury history in Philly, plus Smith's own history, and Cassel's recent history behind this line, you're probably looking at 14 starts max for Smith.

To be worth what we paid, the bottom line will come down to did he help us win and get into the playoffs and play well in the playoffs. But if we are just basing it on stats, you'd be looking for something similar to Gannon's first year in Oakland, which is similar to the numbers above except Gannon had 700 more passing yards. Based on history and the fact that we don't have Tim Brown on this roster, I don't think hitting 3800 yards has any chance of happening...
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:44 AM   #2
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When you trade multiple high picks for a qb the expectation should be that you are building around that guy for championships (yes, multiple). If you are not building for championships, then the picks were wasted. Until Alex Smith becomes an integral part of championship teams, I will view that trade as a collossal failure.
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:50 AM   #3
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throwing for 3,500 yards doesn't mean anything anymore...it would put him 18th between Rivers and Fitzpatrick

but throwing for 3,500 yards with such a terrible completion percentage is 'almost' impossible...noticeable exceptions: Luck and Freeman (but both were over 4,000)

and i have no idea why we'd want smith tutoring anyone..."Hey, kid, when in doubt take a sack...and always look at the rush so that you can't make a play down field"
Yeah. Because Kaep takes so many sacks right? Stop with the non sense. Some times the best teachers, weren't good players.
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When you trade multiple high picks for a qb the expectation should be that you are building around that guy for championships (yes, multiple). If you are not building for championships, then the picks were wasted. Until Alex Smith becomes an integral part of championship teams, I will view that trade as a collossal failure.
Do you think that the Texans feel they got a colossal failure in Matt Schaub?

That's the same price the Texans gave up to get him.

The picks compensation is so over blown. Half of this board, doesn't even know who was drafted at 34 this year.......
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:16 PM   #4
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The picks compensation is so over blown. Half of this board, doesn't even know who was drafted at 34 this year.......
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:30 PM   #5
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Well, correct. But, the 34th pick which the 49ers got, no one knew who was taken there without looking it up.

That's my point about draft picks being overblown.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:31 PM   #6
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Well, correct. But, the 34th pick which the 49ers got, no one knew who was taken there without looking it up.

That's my point about draft picks being overblown.
Titans got Justin Hunter. 49ers got Tank.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:38 PM   #7
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Well, correct. But, the 34th pick which the 49ers got, no one knew who was taken there without looking it up.

That's my point about draft picks being overblown.
If you really think none if us knew who went at 34 without looking it up you are far more stupid than I ever thought.

Please remove your head from your ass.

Shit like this is why people get pissed at you, its disrespectful.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:07 PM   #8
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Other than that awful completion percentage(no. freaking. way. he chucks up a casselian 56%)... i'm with the OP.

Get that percentage up around 65 and that sounds about right... he will probably surpass his previous yardage totals with "fire away" Reid.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:56 PM   #11
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In Reid's offense, he should put up close to 4000 yards
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This is slowly turning into a Niner forum. And we already had a stat prediction thread for Smith. L2Search.
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This is slowly turning into a Niner forum. And we already had a stat prediction thread for Smith. L2Search.
Put us all on ignore if you can't help but be a xenophobic pussy. Or feel free to just talk KC football, and see which if any of us can intelligently do the same.
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Actually the 49ers also got a 3rd round pick next year and a 7th rounder this year for Alex Smith.
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