Chiefs could be stacked for next offseason.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Just completely gloss over the fact that the cap is increasing almost $10 million a year over the next 2 years.

And you can draft well all you want.....but it doesn't mean dick when you don't sign those draft picks to their 2nd contract.

Thats exactly right. If you dont sign them, then something went wrong.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Just completely gloss over the fact that the cap is increasing almost $10 million a year over the next 2 years.

And you can draft well all you want.....but it doesn't mean dick when you don't sign those draft picks to their 2nd contract.

Exactly.

You can't say "we want to build through the draft" in one breath and then say "it's ok that we are letting everyone walk in FA that we drafted" in the next breath.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Exactly.

You can't say "we want to build through the draft" in one breath and then say "it's ok that we are letting everyone walk in FA that we drafted" in the next breath.

Except, they didn't draft those guys.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

How many examples are there of teams successfully building through free-agency? Not many. Given the new CBA, building through the draft will become even more of an imperative given cheap rookie contracts.

Teams consistently win by drafting (include rookie FAs here too) well AND having a good coaching staff.

Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett and Marshawn Lynch.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by milkman

Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett and Marshawn Lynch.

Avril and Bennett were both bargain signings, not huge bank breaking deals like the Donkeys are doing.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Avril and Bennett were both bargain signings, not huge bank breaking deals like the Donkeys are doing.

I understand that.

As I said in an earlier, I am not concerned with the lack of activity early in this process.

I am only pointing out the stupidity of these posts.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Avril and Bennett were both bargain signings, not huge bank breaking deals like the Donkeys are doing.

And guess what? Bennett just got a new deal because of how he performed. Funny that teams do that after 1 year prove it deals.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And guess what? Bennett just got a new deal because of how he performed. Funny that teams do that after 1 year prove it deals.

People are mad at losing Schwart but he is an average starter at best, that was his ceiling. No way that we were going to over pay him like the Giants did. It's not like he proved himself to be a top or even above average guard in the league; he was just better than what we currently had and people are treating him like the next coming of Larry Allen. Schwartz was a good run blocker but a poor pass protector; he was not worth what the Giants paid for him but good for him that he was able to get his pay day.

The only reason why he looked good, compared to our other interior guys, was because he was the most experienced.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

How many examples are there of teams successfully building through free-agency? Not many. Given the new CBA, building through the draft will become even more of an imperative given cheap rookie contracts.

Teams consistently win by drafting (include rookie FAs here too) well AND having a good coaching staff.

The problem is that we've been trying to build through the draft for some time now, only to piss down our leg when it comes time to sign a second contract for our home grown talent. Building through the draft isn't very meaningless if the team refuses to pay a contract once those draft picks exceed their rookie contract.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

The team that retains Schwartz still loses ground to Manning and the Broncos this offseason.

That's not entirely fair seeing as how the entire league has lost ground to the Broncos this offseason thus far.

The Broncos are going all in on 2014. This is likely it for Manning. None of that gives the Chiefs a free pass to sit back and wait for the storm to pass.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by Fish

The problem is that we've been trying to build through the draft for some time now, only to piss down our leg when it comes time to sign a second contract for our home grown talent. Building through the draft isn't very meaningless if the team refuses to pay a contract once those draft picks exceed their rookie contract.

A team that consistently drafts well cannot pay all of its stars the market wage on their 2nd contract. There exists a salary cap. A good GM will identify the key talent and let the rest walk.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

A team that consistently drafts well cannot pay all of its stars the market wage on their 2nd contract. There exists a salary cap. A good GM will identify the key talent and let the rest walk.

Daniel... key talent.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

A team that consistently drafts well cannot pay all of its stars the market wage on their 2nd contract. There exists a salary cap. A good GM will identify the key talent and let the rest walk.

The point is that so far this offseason, we've went against the "Build through the draft" model by letting many of our own high draft picks walk away by not offering them a contract past their rookie one, in addition to mostly ignoring the free agent market thus far.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by Fish

The point is that so far this offseason, we've went against the "Build through the draft" model by letting many of our own high draft picks walk away by not offering them a contract past their rookie one, in addition to mostly ignoring the free agent market thus far.

Huh? The point is you can't be the highest bidder in the league on a bunch of guys every year, regardless of whether you drafted them or not.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Fish

The problem is that we've been trying to build through the draft for some time now, only to piss down our leg when it comes time to sign a second contract for our home grown talent. Building through the draft isn't very meaningless if the team refuses to pay a contract once those draft picks exceed their rookie contract.

How dare they pass on signing an injury-prone 30 year old OT to a nearly $50 mil deal who is only above average at his position?

Or how dare they pass on a "run stuffing" 5-tech who offers no pass rushing ability for $25 mil?

How dare they pass on a special teams pipsqueak who isn't very fast for his size and offers little in the passing game when a draft that's remarkably deep at WR is coming up?

How could they think of passing on signing an OG who was a career journeyman and an average starter at best for premium dollars?

Yeahhhhhhh, about that.