Poll: Has the NFL become to politically correct for you taste?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

They know the importance of streaming TV and I bet the NFL is secretly wishing they could get out of this DirecTV deal.

Bullshit.

The NFL is guaranteed $1.5 billion dollars per year through 2021 with Direct TV/AT&T.

If you think that they want to give that up for a Twitter, you're dead wrong.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bullshit.

The NFL is guaranteed $1.5 billion dollars per year through 2021 with Direct TV/AT&T.

If you think that they want to give that up for a Twitter, you're dead wrong.

At some point the NFL will need to care a lot more about their viewers and fan loyalty than the size of their contract. When diehards stop watching games not because they don't want to, but because they don't have the option of watching a game the way they want it... that's not good business.

And I didn't say the NFL needs to replace their current contract with Twitter. I am saying the use of streaming for a nationally televised game goes to show how many people would gladly stream an out-of-market game that wasn't available on network TV. The NFL would greatly benefit from their current model, but offering a paid streaming option for anyone who didn't want to commit to a dish. The fact that the NFL has no option for non-dish subscribers (apart from college) to stream is completely bonkers. And it's completely out of touch with today's world. Again, Goodell's Twitter contract seems to be acknowledgement that Goodell understands this problem.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

At some point the NFL will need to care a lot more about their viewers and fan loyalty than the size of their contract. When diehards stop watching games not because they don't want to, but because they don't have the option of watching a game the way they want it... that's not good business.

And I didn't say the NFL needs to replace their current contract with Twitter. I am saying the use of streaming for a nationally televised game goes to show how many people would gladly stream an out-of-market game that wasn't available on network TV.
Good grief, you're SO ****ING verbose.

And, of course, you're wrong.

Last night's game garnered only 8 million viewers across all platforms, including streaming.

The 2015 Week 4 Thursday night game garnered 19.4 million viewers on NFLN and CBS.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The NFL would greatly benefit from their current model, but offering a paid streaming option for anyone who didn't want to commit to a dish. The fact that the NFL has no option for non-dish subscribers (apart from college) to stream is completely bonkers. And it's completely out of touch with today's world. Again, Goodell's Twitter contract seems to be acknowledgement that Goodell understands this problem.

If Direct TV loses Sunday Ticket, not only will DTV/AT&T suffer but there's no way the NFL generates $1.5 billion annually from Sunday Ticket or similar.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And I didn't say the NFL needs to replace their current contract with Twitter. I am saying the use of streaming for a nationally televised game goes to show how many people would gladly stream an out-of-market game that wasn't available on network TV.
Good grief, you're SO ****ING verbose.

And, of course, you're wrong.

Last night's game garnered only 8 million viewers across all platforms, including streaming.

The 2015 Week 4 Thursday night game garnered 19.4 million viewers on NFLN and CBS.

https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/...Platforms.aspx
2.2M total viewers on Twitter (2.6M in week 2). Only 200-300K at any given time. But that's a lot of eyeballs.

If Direct TV loses Sunday Ticket, not only will DTV/AT&T suffer but there's no way the NFL generates $1.5 billion annually from Sunday Ticket or similar.

DirecTV is dependent on the NFL a shitload more than the NFL is dependent on DirecTV. And it's going to get worse over the next 5 years. If the NFL is cool with watching that downward slide in viewership, fine. Like I said, there's a point when losing diehard viewers isn't worth whatever premium DirecTV is charging.

MLBTV has 3.5M subscribers paying $130 for a much less popular sport. The NFL would have a shitload more subscribers paying a much higher price. You're absolutely nuts if you don't think there would be enormous demand for an online streaming option that didn't tie your hands to a dish.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And DirecTV is desperate to cling on because they know that lots of subscribers keep their dish only because of Sunday Ticket. So DirecTV will never be open to opening up their streaming services to non-dish subscribers in a meaningful way.

That's completely untrue.

If Direct TV isn't available in your area or you live in a complex that won't allow a dish, the Sunday Ticket streaming option is available.

[DaneMcCloud]

Oh, and MLB streaming is just short of sucking. I have a Roku 2 connected to a 65" Sharp Aquos and I have to change the advanced motion setting just to see a Royals game somewhat clearly.

No to mention, interruptions, skips, motion blurs, etc. The NFL is a much faster paced game and I think it would probably look like shit on large LED's.

And I have a 225 mbps connection.

[chiefzilla1501]

Today's world for out-of-market games:
-Pay several hundred $'s to install a dish. Locked in to an expensive cable charge
-Pay $350 for Sunday Ticket on top
-Don't have a dish? **** you.

Alternative:
-Option to watch on cable per game, per month, or per year with a paid subscription
-Option to watch streaming only. No need to have cable.
-Bundled rate for both

Um... yeah, I think the second option will get you a hell of a lot more viewers.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Today's world for out-of-market games:
-Pay several hundred $'s to install a dish. Locked in to an expensive cable charge
-Pay $350 for Sunday Ticket on top
-Don't have a dish? **** you.

Alternative:
-Option to watch on cable per game, per month, or per year with a paid subscription
-Option to watch streaming only. No need to have cable.
-Bundled rate for both

Um... yeah, I think the second option will get you a hell of a lot more viewers.

More stupidity.

For new subscribers, Sunday Ticket is FREE. Secondly, there is NO charge for installation or equipment.

Clearly, you don't read the Sunday Ticket thread because NO ONE pays full price.

I paid $159 for Sunday Ticket Max this year.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

More stupidity.

For new subscribers, Sunday Ticket is FREE. Secondly, there is NO charge for installation or equipment.

Clearly, you don't read the Sunday Ticket thread because NO ONE pays full price.

I paid $159 for Sunday Ticket Max this year.

Oh lord. Okay, so here...
-There are 20M DirecTV subscribers
-There are a projected 100M TV households
-19.5M cut the cord

Meaning there are 80M households who have no access to out-of-market games unless you go to a bar/friend's house. I'm betting plenty would gladly pay for online streaming if it was available. It's literally not even an option.

So you're saying that if you open up subscribership to 100M households instead of 20M that you won't see a significant bump in subscribers? That the NFL doesn't get hurt whatsoever by not offering convenient viewing options to 80% of US households?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

So you're saying that if you open up subscribership to 100M households instead of 20M that you won't see a significant bump in subscribers? That the NFL doesn't get hurt whatsoever by not offering convenient viewing options to 80% of US households?

You really fail to understand this: The NFL is GUARANTEED $1.5 BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR with Direct TV.

Why in the ****ing world would they take their business elsewhere, which doesn't include guarantees, in a time of declining viewership?

You're ASSUMING that more people would subscribe but it's just that: An assumption.

You can order the most basic DTV package for $29.99 and get Sunday Ticket FREE or you're charged $259-$359 each year with the most basic package.

If more people WANTED Sunday Ticket, they could purchase it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You really fail to understand this: The NFL is GUARANTEED $1.5 BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR with Direct TV

Why in the ****ing world would they take their business elsewhere, which doesn't include guarantees, in a time of declining viewership?

You're ASSUMING that more people would subscribe but it's just that: An assumption.

You can order the most basic DTV package for $29.99 and get Sunday Ticket FREE or you're charged $259-$359 each year with the most basic package.

If more people WANTED Sunday Ticket, they could purchase it.

$1.5B alternative:
-Bid contract out. Recover a lot of the $1.5B back
-Significantly increase paid subscribers (market to 100M households instead of 20M)
-Offer sponsorship/advertising on streaming site
Most obvious: significantly increase viewership. Increases fan loyalty which creates fan spending $'s. Charge more $ for advertising/sponsorship.

There is absolutely a tipping point where $1.5B isn't worth restricting options for fans. You continue to push installing a physical dish and committing to a year-long contract when 15% of Americans are cutting the cord... that's not consistent with reality today. If the NFL wants to stay relevant, they have to offer online streaming to a mass audience. I don't know how that's even a question.

[CapsLockKey]

I'm on board with getting rid of Thursday games. Not enough time for teams to properly prepare compounded with players having less recovery time leading to a complete shitfest more often than not. It's hurting the quality of the overall image of their product.

[Pablo]

I BEEN WAITING ALL DAY FOR A THURSDAY NIIIIIIGHT...

Said nobody ever.

I watch college football to get my fix anymore. The NFL is the Chiefs and that's about it.

[Pablo]

How big of a pussy do you have to be to quit watch the NFL over players kneeling?

I'm sure there are like dozens of people that have though.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

People are finally realizing games are directed towards a certain result. I know for a fact whoever the team that won last year was caused many to give up football for good. It was that blatantly rigged. The Rams leaving caused a HUGE segment of fans to do the same.