Official Laker-Hater Championship thread. Whining encouraged!!

[California Injun]

Leave it to the JailBlazers to tank their game against the lowly Clippers to avoid meeting the San Antonio Spurs in their bracket.

Leave it to the 3-Time Champs to exude class by whomping up on the lowly Warriors to secure the #5 seed and eventually match-up with the Spurs in the next round.

That "whoosh" you hear is from the Cowtown Euros as they get a cakewalk to the Western Finals by playing the Utah Greybeards and then the defenseless Cuban Cigars.

The Staples Crew will EASILY dispatch those toothless T-Cubs before a BIG match-up against the Boot Accessorizors. This will be a huge test for the Champs but they will eventually prevail before the long awaited match-up with the Farmers.

Once past the Spurs, the Lakers will throttle the Kings and send that franchise reeling. Rumor has it that Brittney Spears is already scoping out Mark Madsen for a date to the NBA Finals.

Unlike the Detroit Red Wings complete choke job in this years NHL Finals, the Big Aristolte has his crew all primed for a Quatro.

Long live the Lakers dynasty and their loyal fans.

Long live the venomous hatred of those unfortunate souls who continue to slander this great organization.

As Kobe said tonight in the post game interview;

"It's time to dance, baby!"

[AJKCFAN]

Oh, so now the Lakers eeked a series win last year vs the Kings because Shaq was not 100%....

Yeah, that's it. That's why it was so close.

Funny that I had thought the reaction here after last year was one incredibly big sigh of relief; very little arrogance. Times change, don't they?

I only mention Webber and Peja not being 100% last year for the Lakers series because you had to mention Shaq being gimpy.

I will mention Kings added Keon Clark to help keep fresh bodies on Shaq, as well as Jimmy Jackson to help keep fresh bodies (and more offensive options than Christie) on Kobe.

Exactly what have the Lakers added to make them better this year than last?

Kobe's better this year, but it's not like he was atrocious last year. George is a bit better. Shaq is healthier. Madsen does more than cheerlead and dance... but where is the help to counter the problems the Kings exposed last year?

[Logical]

Originally posted by AJKCFAN
Oh, so now the Lakers eeked a series win last year vs the Kings because Shaq was not 100%....

Yeah, that's it. That's why it was so close.

Funny that I had thought the reaction here after last year was one incredibly big sigh of relief; very little arrogance. Times change, don't they?

I only mention Webber and Peja not being 100% last year for the Lakers series because you had to mention Shaq being gimpy.

I will mention Kings added Keon Clark to help keep fresh bodies on Shaq, as well as Jimmy Jackson to help keep fresh bodies (and more offensive options than Christie) on Kobe.

Exactly what have the Lakers added to make them better this year than last?

Kobe's better this year, but it's not like he was atrocious last year. George is a bit better. Shaq is healthier. Madsen does more than cheerlead and dance... but where is the help to counter the problems the Kings exposed last year?

Well it certainly wasn't because the Kings are a championship caliber team.

[AJKCFAN]

Originally posted by Logical



Well it certainly wasn't because the Kings are a championship caliber team.

We shall find out if this will "ring" true in two months time...

[California Injun]

Originally posted by AJKCFAN


If that's so, why did the Lakers need a miracle sequence 3 point shot, hometown referreeing and blatant chokejob by the Kings in Game 7 to advance in that series?

No force on earth could stop them? O.... K

Auuugghhh!!!!

Good old fashioned Kings/Lakers smack and where was I?

Adam,

Why did you call Game #4 a "miracle sequence 3 point shot" when the Kings BLATANTLY CHOKED away a 24 point lead?

And did you forget Game #2 and Game #5 "hometown referreeing" with regards to the number of early fouls on Kobe and Shaq? In fact, the Diesel was off to a monster performance in Game #5 before the zebras sent him to the bench with 3 fouls early in the 2nd quarter.

But I do understand your frustration with that series as that was the last time you saw them play in 2002.

Lakers fans only rehash that when it is harvest season for the Farmers. (i.e. play-offs).

And what do you think about the Suns wrestling with the Boot Accessorizors? All that planning to stay away from the Spurs bracket and now the Lakers get a bye into the Western Conference Finals?

San Antonio is getting a huge case of Spur-itis and needed a South American rookie to hit the big 3 down the stretch tonight to ice the game. They are playing really tight and Marbury is eating Parker's lunch. Duncan is fretting over FTs for chrissakes!!!!

MVP you ask? Pullleeezzeeee.....

[AJKCFAN]

Originally posted by California Injun


Adam,

Why did you call Game #4 a "miracle sequence 3 point shot" when the Kings BLATANTLY CHOKED away a 24 point lead?

Um, maybe because if the volleyballing of the loose ball doesn't go to Horry for the winning 3, no one would have said boo about the losing of a 24 point lead.

QUOTE]Originally posted by California Injun


And did you forget Game #2 and Game #5 "hometown referreeing" with regards to the number of early fouls on Kobe and Shaq? In fact, the Diesel was off to a monster performance in Game #5 before the zebras sent him to the bench with 3 fouls early in the 2nd quarter.

[/QUOTE]

The legend grows. First, you griped about Game 5 last year. Now, it's both Game 2 and Game 5. A spoiled cheeseburger did Kobe in a lot more so than the refs in Game 2.

QUOTE]Originally posted by California Injun


But I do understand your frustration with that series as that was the last time you saw them play in 2002.

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Guess that means December 25, 2002 doesn't count.

QUOTE]Originally posted by California Injun


Lakers fans only rehash that when it is harvest season for the Farmers. (i.e. play-offs).

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Guess again. Lakers fans are rehashing this because they know the Kings are coming and realize they better hope the Kings keep choking or there won't be anyone to save them. Not the Kings. Not the refs.

Celtics could only hold the Pistons back for so long.

Pistons could only hold the Bulls back for so long.

And the Lakers can only hold the Kings back for so long.

QUOTE]Originally posted by California Injun


And what do you think about the Suns wrestling with the Boot Accessorizors? All that planning to stay away from the Spurs bracket and now the Lakers get a bye into the Western Conference Finals?

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I think it's wonderful at least one team is sweating out the 1st Round. Looks like the past 2 games proved it will be a 7 game series instead of a 6 game series. Still feel very confident in the Spurs to win.

QUOTE]Originally posted by California Injun


San Antonio is getting a huge case of Spur-itis and needed a South American rookie to hit the big 3 down the stretch tonight to ice the game. They are playing really tight and Marbury is eating Parker's lunch. Duncan is fretting over FTs for chrissakes!!!!

[/QUOTE]

Yes they are. All they need to do is advance past this round and club it out with the Lakers for 7 before bowing out. Make it a very grueling series and inflict a physical toll on the Lakers. Then hopefully, the Kings will await in the Western Conference Finals and we can get it on once again.

I'm becoming more confident by the game though of a possible KIngs-Spurs Western Conference Finals; should that ever come to pass.

QUOTE]Originally posted by California Injun


MVP you ask? Pullleeezzeeee..... [/QUOTE]

I never had Duncan as the MVP. Matter of fact, Kobe has my vote, followed by McGrady, Garnett, and then Duncan.

[California Injun]

Adam,

Laker fans WANTED the Kings and I was pissed that we fell out of your bracket. You even mentioned that you would NOT want the Lakers in the Semi-Finals. Why is that?

Could it be that a Western Finals loss to the Lakers is more respectful in the eyes of the adoring public?

I did not mention your comment about us blowing out the T-Cubs but feel the need to offer a rebuttal.

Minnesota was 33-8 at home.

We beat them by 19 points.

They NEVER held the lead..... EVER!!!

The Lakers dropped 39 points in the 1st quarter. That was the MOST given up by the Wolves in a quarter.....EVER!!

The crowd got off its hands ONCE after introductions and it happened in the 3rd quarter when the lead got down to 4.

It wasn't the team that the Lakers beat but the performance. They slaughtered a #4 team with 51 wins in their own crib.

As for your Kings, it appears they have righted the ship and killed the Jazz tonight. My only fear is watching them sweep Utah as that MIGHT hasten the Mailman to sign up as a Laker in 2003-04.

That SI piece a few weeks back on Malone and Stockton gave me the shudders just THINKING that Karl would play for the minimum in Purple and Gold.

Problem is..... we need a legitimate power forward and Malone wants a ring.

[Chief Faithful]

If that's so, why did the Lakers need a miracle sequence 3 point shot, hometown referreeing and blatant chokejob by the Kings in Game 7 to advance in that series?

Don't forget the 3 point shot left Horry's hand after the buzzer. Peja did not play due to an ankle injury and Weber was having trouble with a lingering ankle injury.

Can the Pond Scum get so lucky again? Not likely. This year the Kings are healthy, Christie is in Fox's head and the Pond Scum is scared. The Pond Scum had better hope for more hometown referreeing and a Kings choke again this year.

Yet, all this discussion is wasted if the Pond Scum cannot get past the T-Wolves.

Laker fans WANTED the Kings and I was pissed that we fell out of your bracket.

Of course they want the Kings. The fans know the Kings where the better team last year and they want the opportunity to see their team redeem themselves.

Dude, your doing a terrible job of defending the Queens, at least your making me laugh.

Why did you take my points on Shaq's lack of skill as a defense of the Kings? It was meant as an inditement on the league and its desire to promote hacks like Shaq. My point is Shaq can only make it in the NBA. He left college early because he couldn't handle the rules. If he played in Europe he would foul out every game. There is no other player in the history of the NBA that has achieved such wealth and fame on so little skill.

The Kings don't need my defense. They have already proved themselves the better team on the court. And they did it while their best to players where injured. This year the team is healthy and deeper. Too bad for the Pond Scum.

[AJKCFAN]

Originally posted by California Injun
Adam,

Laker fans WANTED the Kings and I was pissed that we fell out of your bracket. You even mentioned that you would NOT want the Lakers in the Semi-Finals. Why is that?

Could it be that a Western Finals loss to the Lakers is more respectful in the eyes of the adoring public?

No. Why go through both the Lakers and Spurs when you don't need to?

More importantly, Kings have not been together as a unit for much of the season. I'd like them to get acclimated with each other a bit more and two playoff rounds against two styles of teams is preparation enough to have them ready for LA.

The "adoring public" believes the Lakers were fortunate, not lucky, to beat the KIngs last year.

As for the win vs the T'Wolves, whatever. The regular season means jack, as you and the Lakers fans have said over and over and over again. The T'Wolves could've been 41-0 at home and I'd still think the Lakers would sweep them. Please don't run that "look how impressive we were" BS... it's the T'Wolves you're beating and it's the 1st round.

Laker-haters, please stay away from this thread later tonight, for no one wanted to be caught with the spray spurting out of the strokefest of beating the "tough" Wolves again....

[BIG_DADDY]

Gotta love it. BD starting the day off right.

[BIG_DADDY]

Sorry guys but as long as Vladeflop is on the Queens flopping all over the place they do not deserve a Championship. That's beeotchball not basketball. That is the reason he was kicked off the Lakers squad in the first place. That and the fact that he was trying to give hummers to everyone in the locker room.

[Chief Faithful]

Main man Mark. Mark Eaton got a good laugh out of the Rise Guys on Sports 1140 KHTK when the trio suggested he'd be a sure Hall of Famer if he got Shaq-like calls during his Utah career as a 7-foot-5 block of wide torso and long arms. "Absolutely," Eaton said with a laugh. "My shoes are in the Hall of Fame, though, but that's about all you'll see."

[BIG_DADDY]

CF wrote:

Main man Mark. Mark Eaton

Who is that?

[BIG_DADDY]

The Lakers have been doing it for a long time CF. They are the greatest team in NBA history. You can cry all you want about officiating and ludicrous comments about Mark Eaton being as good as Shaq but it only shows your lack of objectivity.





ALL-TIME OVERALL RECORDS Team W L
Los Angeles Lakers 360 235 .605
Boston Celtics 281 196 .589
Chicago Bulls 147 106 .581
Baltimore Bullets* 10 7 .588
Philadelphia 76ers 197 177 .527
New York Knickerbockers 179 171 .511
Indiana Pacers 61 59 .508
Houston Rockets 100 99 .503
Anderson Packers* 4 4 .500
Milwaukee Bucks 97 98 .497
Utah Jazz 93 95 .495
Detroit Pistons 119 123 .492
Seattle SuperSonics 101 105 .490
San Antonio Spurs 83 89 .483
Phoenix Suns 95 106 .473
Portland Trail Blazers 88 99 .471
Golden State Warriors 99 115 .463
Dallas Mavericks 29 37 .439
Atlanta Hawks 117 152 .435

PLAYOFF SERIES RECORDS Team W L
Boston Celtics 65 26 .714
Los Angeles Lakers 89 36 .712
Anderson Packers* 2 1 .667
Chicago Bulls 34 18 .654
Baltimore Bullets* 3 2 .600
New York Knickerbockers 40 34 .541
Houston Rockets 22 19 .537
Philadelphia 76ers 41 38 .519
Seattle SuperSonics 21 20 .512
Utah Jazz 18 19 .486
Golden State Warriors 22 24 .478
Milwaukee Bucks 18 21 .462
Phoenix Suns 19 23 .452
Detroit Pistons 24 30 .444
Indiana Pacers 11 14 .440
San Antonio Spurs 16 21 .432
Dallas Mavericks 6 8 .429
Portland Trail Blazers 18 24 .429
Orlando Magic 5 7 .417
Washington Capitols* 2 3 .400
Washington Wizards 13 20 .394
Atlanta Hawks 20 35 .364
Charlotte Hornets 4 7 .364
Chicago Stags* 2 4 .333
Denver Nuggets 7 14 .333
Sacramento Kings 12 24 .333
Miami Heat 3 8 .273
New Jersey Nets 4 11 .267
Toronto Raptors 1 3 .250
Cleveland Cavaliers 4 13 .235
Indianapolis Olympians* 1 4 .200
Los Angeles Clippers 1 6 .143
Cleveland Rebels* 0 1 .000
Sheboygan Redskins* 0 1 .000
St. Louis Bombers* 0 3 .000
Minnesota Timberwolves 0 6 .000
Totals 548 548 .500


Orlando Magic 23 30 .434
Washington Capitols* 8 11 .421
New Orleans Hornets 20 28 .417
Washington Wizards 69 97 .416
Sacramento Kings 63 89 .414
Toronto Raptors 8 12 .400
Denver Nuggets 39 59 .398
Miami Heat 20 31 .392
Los Angeles Clippers 13 22 .371
Cleveland Cavaliers 28 49 .364
Chicago Stags* 7 13 .350
New Jersey Nets 20 39 .339
Cleveland Rebels* 1 2 .333
Sheboygan Redskins* 1 2 .333
St. Louis Bombers* 4 8 .333
Indianapolis Olympians* 4 9 .308
Minnesota Timberwolves 5 18 .217
2592 2592 .500

[picasso]

That's because the LA Lakers are also one of the older teams in the league. And may I note that your win-loss record probably dates back to the time they were in Minnesota.

On another quick note:

The Kings are 2 - 0.
Stomping on the Jazz with the bench. Stoyo was on FIRE.
The Kings bench alone would take LA to a seven game series this year. Feeling sorry for ya, yep, feeling sorry for ya.

One other thing, have ya noticed how the media and the Lakers are really pushing "The absence of Shaq" story. Almost to the point to where they make that a premature reason for their possible decline through this playoffs. Bobby Jacksons Mother died during the second half of the season and nobody asked him if he was ready to play or if he could.

Excuses

[Chief Faithful]

You can cry all you want about officiating and ludicrous comments about Mark Eaton being as good as Shaq but it only shows your lack of objectivity.

Who is crying? I'm just saying Shaq has size but no skill. He is worthless when more than 5 feet from the basket. His game is totally dependent on the officiating.

As for the Kings my point is simple, they are a better team and they proved it last year and will again this year.