The Pope John Paul II

[Jenson71]

Today I listened to a talk about the Catholic religion and part of it dealed with the Pope - John Paul II. Isn't he amazing? The Pope is one of my heroes. He's so unbelievably good. This thread is a tribute thread to the living saint.

[Slayer Diablo]

Originally Posted by Jenson71

I am in AP European History.

I hear it's an awesome class...would take it myself, but my schedule is already filled.

BTW, you should really enjoy the trip to Europe...I have a couple teachers who are always going over there and tell us how things work. Two things to remember if they haven't told you already: don't bother giving a high-percent tip to the waitors in Germany--they're already well-payed, so you just have to round your check to the nearest Euro out of courtesy...second thing: NEVER mention either World War...especially if it's a joke.

[C-Mac]

Originally Posted by gochiefs

Yeah, that's actually very true. I was going to say something about it but I'd rather not defend JWs.

They try to paint their organization as a bunch of saints but it's not true at all. There have been plenty of problems, especially in recent years. Child molestation, stealing congregation money, etc.

But they don't kill anyone!

You know not killing your fellow man carries a heck of a lot of impressive weight to me. Especially when their compared to all other worldwide religions who haven't come close to practicing what their "bible" teaches. I loathe the hypocrisy of most religions. Not that I've read many headlines from what you state about some of the JW's, but I do know that even in the Bible they had a problem from time to time like with Judas, ect. I will tell you this, if I had to hire my employee's based on religion and honesty, I would definetly hirer a JW first. A free perk is that they dont complain about working Holidays either.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by C-Mac

I will tell you this, if I had to hire my employee's based on religion and honesty, I would definetly hirer a JW first. A free perk is that they dont complain about working Holidays either.

I'd agree with you there.

[beavis]

Originally Posted by Metrolike

So did you learn about how phony the Catholic Church was? Popes were corrupt bastards, corrupting and destroying the whole Western Europe.

eh hem...?

[Pants]

Originally Posted by beavis

eh hem...?

Huh?

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Metrolike

Huh?

I think he is pointing out that you are referring to something in past tense that is still around

[Pants]

Originally Posted by ZachKC

I think he is pointing out that you are referring to something in past tense that is still around

God, I'm stupid. Well, yeah, I can see his point, but the current Pope is actually an incredible person and I have full respect for him. The church isn't nearly as corrupt anymore as it no longer controls the society/nation/whatever.

[JohnnyV13]

Well..Jenson,

I've never really liked John Paul II's theology...but then again I went to a Jesuit HS so I am not really big on "I'm the Pope so what i say goes and " school of theological interpretation.

The fact is, I think JP 2 is a very poor theologian but his historical role in bringing down communism and re establishing religion across the iron curtain was more important than his shortcomings in theology.

[Jenson71]

Originally Posted by Slayer Diablo

I hear it's an awesome class...would take it myself, but my schedule is already filled.

BTW, you should really enjoy the trip to Europe...I have a couple teachers who are always going over there and tell us how things work. Two things to remember if they haven't told you already: don't bother giving a high-percent tip to the waitors in Germany--they're already well-payed, so you just have to round your check to the nearest Euro out of courtesy...second thing: NEVER mention either World War...especially if it's a joke.

You, Slayer, would definitely love the hell out of a European History class. The class trip is just to France though. No jokes, I'll remember.

[Slayer Diablo]

Originally Posted by Jenson71

You, Slayer, would definitely love the hell out of a European History class. The class trip is just to France though. No jokes, I'll remember.

France?!??! Please, feel free to make as many jokes over there as possible...we should treat France with as little respect as they show towards us...aw hell, even less than that. (and I can say all that because I'm part French)

[Jenson71]

Nah, those Frenchmen in the little villages where we'll stay most often are completely nice people, even to evil Americans.

[Herzig]

Originally Posted by Metrolike

God, I'm stupid. Well, yeah, I can see his point, but the current Pope is actually an incredible person and I have full respect for him. The church isn't nearly as corrupt anymore as it no longer controls the society/nation/whatever.

Very true. I think that there has been tremendous reform in the Church since the dark ages. The Church today is not perfect(no organized religion will ever be). Do you realize that the Catholic Church is the world's largest religion with over 1 Billion members? That's almost one out of every 6-7 people.

[JohnnyV13]

Originally Posted by Metrolike

God, I'm stupid. Well, yeah, I can see his point, but the current Pope is actually an incredible person and I have full respect for him. The church isn't nearly as corrupt anymore as it no longer controls the society/nation/whatever.

That's sort of an odd quote coming from a time when the Church had a number of pedophilia problems. The pedophilia itself wasn't a sign of corruption, but, over a 20 year period, the repeated coverups by Bishops that put pedophilies in positions to harm more children indicates a systemic problem.

I was quite disappointed that the Church in this situation acted worse than many corporate actors: it took multimillion dollar lawsuits before they changed their behavior, so that it left one wondering if the Church valued its image over the well being of its children.

[C-Mac]

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Well..Jenson,

I've never really liked John Paul II's theology...but then again I went to a Jesuit HS so I am not really big on "I'm the Pope so what i say goes and " school of theological interpretation.

The fact is, I think JP 2 is a very poor theologian but his historical role in bringing down communism and re establishing religion across the iron curtain was more important than his shortcomings in theology.

Wow, he's the leader of a church, yet his shortcomings in theology are just overlooked? Amazing. If a Christian religion is not at least attempting to based upon the Bible it claims to be built upon, then you would not have a Bible based religion......you would have a opinionated politically motivated compromising based religion.
Whalaa...

[C-Mac]

Originally Posted by Herzig

Very true. I think that there has been tremendous reform in the Church since the dark ages. The Church today is not perfect(no organized religion will ever be). Do you realize that the Catholic Church is the world's largest religion with over 1 Billion members? That's almost one out of every 6-7 people.

Hi Greg
How's everything going?
I believe that you statement that the Catholic church is part correct. It is the largest "Christian" religion, but it is not the worlds largests religion. I believe it is Taoism that holds that mark.