810 vs 610 on Thigy

[petegz28]

So this afternoon I am driving around and I hear KK going off abou tThigy not being the man and such. Ok, commercial comes so I flip to 610. On 610 they are arguing that Thigy deserves a shot and pointing out the stats pre and post Thigy and such.

You almost wonder if they plan this shit? Anyhow, if KK is so staunch in his opposition of Thigy then I say we definitely need to give Thigy a shot.

So this seems it will be the ongoing argument over the next several weeks. Some people are going to be very pissed off come draft time when we make our first selection.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by smittysbar

All the QB's you mention would out play thiggy in the spread.....just sayin

They might. And they should considering the expectation of such. The fact is Thigy's first year was no worse than a lot of 1st round picks. The question is consistency and getting him under center. Unfortunately for the Chiefs that means having an O-line who can block in an under center style offense. We do not have that line.

[Hammock Parties]

The bottom line is this:

Thigpen deserves a chance to compete for the starting job in camp. He earned that this year.

He did NOT earn the starting job.

He must compete with our first-round pick.

Thigpen is not good enough to warrant passing on a quarterback.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

And is next year what we are playing for here?

Yes! This is the NFL, not ML baseball. With FA and the salary cap, there is no reason teams in the NFL cannot go from having a bad season to being in the playoffs the next.

Miami sure turned it around in a hurry. And other teams seem to be able to play for the current year and still build for the future at the same time. It is time the Chiefs start doing just that.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Claythan

The bottom line is this:

Thigpen deserves a chance to compete for the starting job in camp. He earned that this year.

He did NOT earn the starting job.

He must compete with our first-round pick.

Thigpen is not good enough to warrant passing on a quarterback.

I agree and disagree. I am not convinced we need to draft a QB in the first round. But I do not think we ink Thigy as THE starter. But I want him to get a fair shot regarldless of who we draft or sign.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mecca

That's way to simplistic it requires a mix, you aren't gonna win the bowl with a great defense and a game manager offense either, reference the Chiefs 90s for that.

baltimore then and this year might just be baltimore again, just to name one

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't agree with that plenty of guys take hits and don't get hurt...the Chiefs just happen to have injury prone QB's...cmon Croyle and Huard?

how injury prone was Trent Green when he played for us? the o line STILL got him killed

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I am not convinced we need to draft a QB in the first round.

Uh, why not?

If there's a guy there who you think is a franchise QB, you take him. There's no reason not to. Thigpen isn't good enough to pass on any player who might be a franchise QB.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Do you realize how good Baltimore's defense was? Also do you really want to build to be the 1 and done team?

again baltimore is in the mix most years as is pittsburgh AND tampa bay all on their defense

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Claythan

Uh, why not?

If there's a guy there who you think is a franchise QB, you take him. There's no reason not to. Thigpen isn't good enough to pass on any player who might be a franchise QB.

Cause we need help everywhere else! A franchise QB isn't going to keep the other team from scoring. A franchise QB isn't going to set a record for the least amount of sacks. We have tried the "out score them" plan and it didn't work.

Thigy played well enough to win several of his starts if we had a defense to protect the lead. And if we had a RB who could pick up 1 ****ing yard when we need it to keep the drives going.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Cause we need help everywhere else! A franchise QB isn't going to keep the other team from scoring.

QB is still the most important position.

A better QB and we might have won 5 or 6 games this year.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea Tyler Thigpen is the worst 4th quarter QB in the NFL...the Chiefs offense in the 2nd halfs in general was complete garbage.

Explain to me why they could only score 30 points when the other team had 38 or 50? So then when the other teams got 22 or 16 they could only muster 20 or say 6.

It's called the entire team being bad.

explanation? maybe in the weeks we scored less the other team's defense was better than the weeks we scored more.
You keep acting like the offense scored less BECAUSE the defense gave up less points, IMO thats not the case, those defenses were better that the others LOOK IT UP

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Claythan

QB is still the most important position.

A better QB and we might have won 5 or 6 games this year.

a better defense and we would have won 8 so which is better 5-6 or 8?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

There is the very real possibility they could do much better.

AND there is the very real possibility they could do worse

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

explanation? maybe in the weeks we scored less the other team's defense was better than the weeks we scored more.
You keep acting like the offense scored less BECAUSE the defense gave up less points, IMO thats not the case, those defenses were better that the others LOOK IT UP

Cincy does not have a better defense than Miami does especially when half of their starters didn't play.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Claythan

QB is still the most important position.

A better QB and we might have won 5 or 6 games this year.

Are we still talking about the Chiefs? The 32nd ranked defense Chiefs? The Chiefs who had all of 10 sacks all year? The Chiefs who gave up 300+ yard like it was going out of style?