Underclassmen QB's in the draft.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Okay, I know that Leaf was a junior. Probably the worst. Showed very quickly that he was not mature enough to make it in the NFL.

Mike Vick came out as a Junior, but again, lacked maturity.

Vince Young was a junior, and has had a mental breakdown.

Aaron Rodgers was a junior, but he was taken later in the first round.

Flacco and Ryan, last year's wonder rookies.... were both seniors.


I see a lot of red flags from Sancez. He was arrested for sexual assault. (I know, this girl was just out for money.... only he was a couple years removed from going pro, and there was no way for her to profit from it at the time, and her mother was the one who called the police)

He only has 16 games of experience and didn't listen to Pete Carroll or his parents that all advised him to go back to school.

He then hires his brother.

So, my question is, has anyone come into the NFL as a junior as a top ten pick that came in and set the NFL on fire?

I mean, Aaron Rodgers was on the bench for three years prior to the Packers leaning on him as there starter.

Do we want a three year waiting period for our QBOTF?

Anyways, I think QB has to be the most level headed and mature position on the field. I see none of that in Sanchez.

In fact, all I see is an arrogant primadonna that isn't smart enough to know what he doesn't know.

There is probably a junior I am misisng. I would love it even more if there is a junior that has on 16 games starting experience and came in as a top pick and set the world on fire.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Do you really believe this, or are you exaggerating? I haven't seen one person say anything about this. In fact, the only people I have heard say they would rail management are the ones who said that if either Sanchez or Stafford is there, and we pass on them, then Pioli is a moron.

I'm talking about the general impression I get from reading other sites as well as this one, and some of the calls I've heard to ESPN Radio from Chiefs fans.

There are a couple of the Sanchezians here that have said they'd be pissed, but for the most, we think he's the best value, but we'll understand give benefit of the doubt if Pioli sees something he doesn't like.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

McNair was a decade ago. Rivers was a unique situation because Brees bounced back and Marty prefers veterans.

Heck, when Brees left, Marty still wanted him instead.

It isn't the 'plan' to have these guys ride the bench a year these days.

Um, I am pretty sure that Palmer sat behind Kitna to learn the ropes.

I am pretty sure that Eli sat behind Warner to learn the ropes.

I am pretty sure that Rodgers sat behind Favre to learn the ropes.

I am pretty sure that Cutler sat behind Plummer to learn the ropes.

I am pretty sure that Roethlisberger sat behind Maddox to learn the ropes.

Those are just examples off of the top of my head. So, there maybe is a "plan" for guys to ride the bench "these days."

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Your right it isnt... You need to start building a foundation and experience. Just like the people who want Cassell, They didnt even know he exsisted until last year when he put up good stats with an ALL STAR supporting cast...

Now people would be willing to allow him to lead their franchise, but not a rookie who never played in the NFL...

ITs just fear of the unknown... Fear of trying....

Cassel learned under the best coaching staff and quarterback in the league for 4 years before getting his first start. He then proved that he could win in the NFL, with that Patriots team and for one 11-5 season. The questions about Cassel are not the same as the questions about Stafford and/or Sanchez. using him is a terrible comparison for Sanchez and Stafford.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by orange

I think you know better.

I'm sorry, most of a year.

How many games did he play in his rookie year?

4?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Big Ben was also not a top five pick, nor a top 10 pick.

The expectations between picks 10 and 11 drop considerably.

Seriously, are you wanting to be called names? Is this your overall objective?

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Cassel learned under the best coaching staff and quarterback in the league for 4 years before getting his first start. He then proved that he could win in the NFL, with that Patriots team and for one 11-5 season. The questions about Cassel are not the same as the questions about Stafford and/or Sanchez. using him is a terrible comparison for Sanchez and Stafford.

yeah, you'd think that would be pretty easy to understand.

Guys like Joey Harrington may be a better example.

[Crush]

May we at least have SensibleChiefsfan's thread making capabilities taken away?

[orange]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'm sorry, most of a year.

How many games did he play in his rookie year?

4?

5

[CanadaKC]

from Don Banks today....

Southern Cal's Sanchez did nothing to make anyone believe he's top 10 material at this point. He struggled quite a bit on passes he threw outside the numbers, near the sidelines, and only looked great on slant patterns. I expect any potential chatter about Sanchez being a real option for the Lions at No. 1 to all but evaporate unless he has a boffo pro day workout next month.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by orange

5

And what were the expectations coming out of Denver when Cutler was drafted?

I know what the buzz was from a national perspective, but were the reactions of the primary fanbase consistent with this? Over the top? Was he the savior?

[orange]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And what were the expectations coming out of Denver when Cutler was drafted?

I know what the buzz was from a national perspective, but were the reactions of the primary fanbase consistent with this? Over the top? Was he the savior?

"Finally the guy who can fill Elway's shoes!"

Yes, expectations were high. There was debate from the very beginning about whether he should start immediately.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by orange

"Finally the guy who can fill Elway's shoes!"

Yes, expectations were high. There was debate from the very beginning about whether he should start immediately.

So they were generally ****ing crazy, huh? Filling the shoes of arguably the greatest player of all time? Nice.

It didn't help that the Snake was Grbacian in the testicle department.

I thought expectations were supposed to be lower with guys outside of the top 10, though? Shocking. Good thing he didn't have to deal with top 10 or top 5 pressure. What would that have looked like? Hilarious.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by CanadaKC

from Don Banks today....

Southern Cal's Sanchez did nothing to make anyone believe he's top 10 material at this point. He struggled quite a bit on passes he threw outside the numbers, near the sidelines, and only looked great on slant patterns. I expect any potential chatter about Sanchez being a real option for the Lions at No. 1 to all but evaporate unless he has a boffo pro day workout next month.

No surprise there. I doubt anyone capable of rational thought believed that Sanchez helped himself with his throwing today. On the other hand, teams will see tape of him in games, get coaches' and scouts' evaluations and watch him on his pro day. They'll also have his interviews to look back at.

He was stupid to throw today since Stafford wasn't throwing, but a good pro day will make up for it in the eyes of most.

[tmax63]

And if he had had a good day at the combine he would of been neck and neck with Stafford. I didn't get to watch but it sounds like he had everything to gain and didn't "git er done". This will be in the eval equation for him, it can't be undone.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Do you really believe this, or are you exaggerating? I haven't seen one person say anything about this. In fact, the only people I have heard say they would rail management are the ones who said that if either Sanchez or Stafford is there, and we pass on them, then Pioli is a moron.

some have railed against mgmt already because of the coaches hired