Your Top 5 picks for the #3 overall.

[Direckshun]

Who do you want the Chiefs to take with the #3 overall?

Seriously. I want you to see what ChiefsPlanet regards as elite, #3 talent.

All choices are welcome here. This is just me picking your brain. This thread is largely debate-free.

Thanks in advance for the honesty.

[Blick]

An all pro doesn't suck, period.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by SNR

I'll play along and argue with you, Sackofgoo.

Drafting a QB is smart because:

1) VALUE. The talent/draft position ratio heavily favors one of these two QBs this year.

No value if he doesn't play. And neither will beat out Cassel.

2) We can do it. We have the money to pay Cassel for a year and have him start. If it works out, then great. If not, then we needed a new QB anyway, and luckily we grabbed one of these two guys, who are INFINITELY better than the QB class in next year's draft.

So, we have Cassel and you want to draft a QB? Good pick. Again. They won't beat him out. No chance whatsoever. Waste of a pick. It's not like the Chiefs don't have any other needs, because you know we just got Cassel, so you want to pick an unproven rookie QB to sit for a year or more?

3) After years of Gannon, Grbac, Bono, hell, even Montana in his old age, don't you think this franchise deserves a QB that the rest of the NFL fears? We arguably have never had one. It's about ****ing time to get one. Cassel (according to even his supporters) is NOT that guy.

Really? Cassel isn't that guy? And you are absolutely positive that if we draft St. Sanchez or Stafford, that he's going to be the guy? And you know that how?

There. That's my reasoning. Tell me why Michael Oher makes more sense. Where will he play? RT? LT? G? WR? We have to move Albert if he plays LT. We're getting ****ed if we put him in at RT.

So you think that by pissing away our first pick in the draft on an unproven rookie QB when we just picked up Cassel, who just went 11-5, who is an athletic 6'5", 235 lb. that everyone who is anyone that knows anything about the game thinks is going to be a continuation of what he showed up in NE is "reason?"

But I'm sure that in your hypothetical, that Sanchez or Stafford, holding that clipboard on the sideline, watching Cassel run for his life after the Cheifs right side of the line, particularly the RT let yet another end or linebacker through virtually untouched. I'm sure that even considering addressing the offensive line is completely idiotic, especially when we could have this kick ass rookie QB looking good holding a clipboard and fetching coffee for the coach. I tell you what, if not getting my quarterback killed for the third season in a row means putting Albert at RT with someone like Monroe, Smith(s) or Oher at LT versus a rookie qb standing on the sidelines, I'll take the offensive line option all day long.

But GOD, at least we didn't PISS AWAY another pick on a damn QB, especially a Latino guy who plays for USC!!!!!!! (your words, not mine, btw)

Actually, those are your words. I never said "Latino" or "USC." However, I did say that if the Chiefs were so amazingly ignorant to waste (and I mean a complete and utter waste) their first round pick on either Sanchez or Stafford, that they would be essentially pissing away the pick, especially considering how many other needs could be addressed with that pick.

You wanted to play. Game over. You lost.

[RealSNR]

There are Cassel backers right here on this forum saying he'll never be Peyton Manning/Tom Brady, but more of a Matt Hasselbeck type QB. I'm more confident Stafford or Sanchez has the POTENTIAL to be a top 3 QB in the NFL than does Cassel.

You don't value the future of a long-term prospect at QB? No, Cassel will likely start this year. If he does well, he will start the year after that, too. But if he's mediocre, we're pretty much stuck with him. I don't know of many other good opportunities to find a QB like Stafford or Sanchez, where we can find ourselves with a draft position high enough to get the guy we want.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Blick

An all pro doesn't suck, period.

It's not even for your ****ing team. The Cardinals invested a top 5 pick in an offensive lineman that sucked balls when he played for them. And he LEFT your team to go play for a rival, when after switching positions, he all of a sudden played at a pro bowl level? For the other TEAM?

That's not a bust, sure. But it's a ****ing disappointment of a draft pick. That would be like Darren McFadden getting cut by Al Davis and signing with us, where he begins the career he never had with the Raiders, breaking Emmitt Smith's all-time rushing yards record.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by SNR

It's not even for your ****ing team. The Cardinals invested a top 5 pick in an offensive lineman that sucked balls when he played for them. And he LEFT your team to go play for a rival, when after switching positions, he all of a sudden played at a pro bowl level? For the other TEAM?

That's not a bust, sure.

That sure as hell is a bust.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

But I'm sure that in your hypothetical, that Sanchez or Stafford, holding that clipboard on the sideline, watching Cassel run for his life after the Cheifs right side of the line, particularly the RT let yet another end or linebacker through virtually untouched. I'm sure that even considering addressing the offensive line is completely idiotic, especially when we could have this kick ass rookie QB looking good holding a clipboard and fetching coffee for the coach. I tell you what, if not getting my quarterback killed for the third season in a row means putting Albert at RT with someone like Monroe, Smith(s) or Oher at LT versus a rookie qb standing on the sidelines, I'll take the offensive line option all day long.



Actually, those are your words. I never said "Latino" or "USC." However, I did say that if the Chiefs were so amazingly ignorant to waste (and I mean a complete and utter waste) their first round pick on either Sanchez or Stafford, that they would be essentially pissing away the pick, especially considering how many other needs could be addressed with that pick.

You wanted to play. Game over. You lost.

Well, gee, now that you mention that Cassel will get beheaded by defenses if he doesn't have a proper line protecting him, that makes a lot of sense. QB drafters just didn't think of that possibility.

Cassel doesn't need a first round pick at every line position to have a good line. This draft is rich in Oline talent into the deeper rounds. Besides, Oher needs a lot of work, and likely wouldn't have a good rookie season. So much for your, "I want to protect my QB next season" argument. If that weren't enough, there's also the fact that YOU DON'T ****IN SPEND A TOP 5 PICK IN THE DRAFT ON A RIGHT TACKLE. You just don't. Ever.

Lastly, you were the guy talking about how sexy Mark Sanchez is, and how people like him because they're gay for him. I know you're not being serious, but can you at least not be serious in a way that will be funny? Otherwise you're just spouting nonsense, which makes you look really stupid.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

That sure as hell is a bust.

So much the better.

[bdeg]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

See? Texas sucks. The University of Texas sucks. Players who play football for the University of Texas suck. Well, when they aren't winning awards like the Hendricks, Lombardi, Nagurski and Willis Trophies, and, shit, even then they suck. Especially when they are 6'3", 265 lb., bench 500, squat 600, run a 40 in 4.63 and get 11.5 sacks against a ballbag conference of spread monkeys like the Big 12. That is, hands down, some flat out, serious suckage. I ****ing hate prospects that suck this much.

And Huff won the Thorpe award, those things may as well be given out according to stats. He also ran a 4.34, so that combo of awards and athleticism isn't exactly foolproof, especially when the player is as raw as Orakpo. Explain to me, why is he so raw? Doesn't he practice?

[Crush]

Saccogoo 3:16 - For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, Aaron Curry, so that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

[Crush]

Ricky Williams is a bust for the Saints, considering that they gave up the entire ****ing draft for him.

[Chiefnj2]

It's a good thing USC had a strong 2008 draft class, otherwise they aren't much better than Texas.

2006
Reggie Bush - Hasn't had more than 600 yards a season and can't break 4.0 ypc avg.
Leinart - Backup

2005
Mike Williams - Is he even in the league anymore?
Mike Patterson - Good pick.

2004
Keniche Udeze - disappointing play before struck with a horrible disease.

2003
Carson Palmer - One of the highest ranked QB's when leaving college. Doesn't have a single playoff win. Only led his team to the playoffs once.
Troy Polamalu - Excellent player. The only pick to really hit.

2000
RJ Soward - Who?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

1. Trade down.
2. Trade down.
3. Trade down.
4. Trade down.
5. Trade down.

Not bad, but I'd go like this.

Sanchez
Stafford
Tradedown
Tradedown
Tradedown

[milkman]

Originally Posted by SBK

Picking a guy at 3 you HOPE can rush the passer is beyond hilarious. I don't even think the leaders of the Detroit Lions would do that.

They hired ****her Gunningham.

It's a mistake to underestimate the stupidity of the Lions mangement.

[Crush]

By Saccogoo's logic, Tony Mandarich is not a bust because he had mild success as a guard for the Colts.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by CanadaKC

Curry or Crabtree...in such a weak draft..they're the only lock.

No offense intended, but you're a ****ing idiot of epic proportions.