Chiefs What were your impressions of the game? - Page 7

htismaqe · 10-05-2009, 08:24 AM

The game wasn't on in my market yesterday and radio coverage was spotty all day, so I only heard portions of the game.

Who played well? Who didn't? Were there any surprises?

For example, it sounded to me like maybe Big Irish at RT was what most of us expected - a little better at run blocking, a little worse at pass blocking.

Give me your take.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-05-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

I thinK Pioli's a smart guy. And I think he and Haley will do good things in KC. And I give Pioli a bit of a pass because he was unfamiliar with the player-personnel on the Chiefs, and was probably hoping/thinking that he could salvage something there.

However, having said all that... I now concede that a.) he didn't draft/FA as well as he could have and b.) even if he knew Thigpen whacked it and Croyle might be fragile, he was probably better off NOT going after a new QB from another team but instead using that money on the O-line and D-line. Football games are won in the trenches. You can find a QB in the draft, even in a late round. And with a better O-line Thigpen and Croyle could've "held the fort" (as Parcells likes to say) until a franchise QB could be drafted/developed. In hindsight, it didn't make sense to pony up big bucks to Cassel.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Cassel is a bad QB. I'm not even saying it was a bad signing. I'm just saying it might have not been the best direction for the Chiefs to go given their state. Hell, Pioli could've signed a cheap re-tread like Jeff Garcia if he wanted to improve the QB situation while seeing what else he had around him.

Or he could have drafted the one at 3 and let him develop for a half a year to a year behind a line that he addressed in the offseason.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-05-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Let's just say there's a lot of stuff Whitlock's said this offseason about those two that just doesn't jibe for me based on what I've seen and heard myself from interviews and from coverage by other people in the media. Maybe that will change in time, I don't know.

Well for me personally, I haven't read anything that disproves what he's written, whether in print or on the football field. LJ's "ego" response yesterday IMO goes a long way in reinforcing what Whitlock has written.

I guess living 2,000 miles from Kansas City and Jason Whitlock leaves me less opinionated about him as a person and a personality than those living within 50 miles of the city.

Coach · 10-05-2009, 12:14 PM

Colquitt concerns me as well. He had several nice punts, but it seems the inconsistency has also bit him as well. Some of his punts looked liked they were shanked.

Although he did had some nice bounces towards his way, but it's still a concern to me.

Cassel still shows the tendancy to overthrow his recievers and behind his receivers. Some of those drops were "catchable" but the throw was late and well behind the receiver.

**Dylan** · 10-05-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

I thinK Pioli's a smart guy. And I think he and Haley will do good things in KC. And I give Pioli a bit of a pass because he was unfamiliar with the player-personnel on the Chiefs, and was probably hoping/thinking that he could salvage something there.

However, having said all that... I now concede that a.) he didn't draft/FA as well as he could have and b.) even if he knew Thigpen whacked it and Croyle might be fragile, he was probably better off NOT going after a new QB from another team but instead using that money on the O-line and D-line. Football games are won in the trenches. You can find a QB in the draft, even in a late round. And with a better O-line Thigpen and Croyle could've "held the fort" (as Parcells likes to say) until a franchise QB could be drafted/developed. In hindsight, it didn't make sense to pony up big bucks to Cassel.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Cassel is a bad QB. I'm not even saying it was a bad signing. I'm just saying it might have not been the best direction for the Chiefs to go given their state. Hell, Pioli could've signed a cheap re-tread like Jeff Garcia if he wanted to improve the QB situation while seeing what else he had around him.

If you believe this -- Clark Hunt picked the wrong people for the job.

Just saying...

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

LJ's "ego" response yesterday IMO goes a long way in reinforcing what Whitlock has written.

It's completely open to interpretation.

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“I think running the football has been an encouragement to me,” Haley said. “We set out today to try and run the football a little bit and I thought we did that some. I would say running the football is starting to show up as something we can do.”

Haley is smoking crack!!!

CoMoChief · 10-05-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Colquitt concerns me as well. He had several nice punts, but it seems the inconsistency has also bit him as well. Some of his punts looked liked they were shanked.

Although he did had some nice bounces towards his way, but it's still a concern to me.

Cassel still shows the tendancy to overthrow his recievers and behind his receivers. Some of those drops were "catchable" but the throw was late and well behind the receiver.

I know he's shanked a few but all punters do.......trust me, a PUNTER is the last thing this team needs to worry about......unless it's Dan Strysinski type of bad.

**SAUTO** · 10-05-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well for me personally, I haven't read anything that disproves what he's written, whether in print or on the football field. LJ's "ego" response yesterday IMO goes a long way in reinforcing what Whitlock has written.

I guess living 2,000 miles from Kansas City and Jason Whitlock leaves me less opinionated about him as a person and a personality than those living within 50 miles of the city.

or maybe LJ is just a parrot

Mr. Laz · 10-05-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Colquitt concerns me as well. He had several nice punts, but it seems the inconsistency has also bit him as well. Some of his punts looked liked they were shanked.

Although he did had some nice bounces towards his way, but it's still a concern to me.

Cassel still shows the tendancy to overthrow his recievers and behind his receivers. Some of those drops were "catchable" but the throw was late and well behind the receiver.

I think at some point this season the coaches asked Colquitt to go for more hang time. Seems like during the preaseason and the 1st game or so he was booming long ass punts. Then all the sudden his distance seem to drop a good 10-15 yrds but his hang time went up.

i think he's kinda shanking them because he's trying to kick them so high.

JMO

FringeNC · 10-05-2009, 12:38 PM

The stats pretty much tell the story. We averaged 3.1 yards per play; they averaged 6.0 yards per play. We were dominated.

The only "upside" to the game is that we did at least force the Giants offense to execute. What I mean is that it was not like the Oakland game last year at home or like Buffalo getting slaughtered by Miami yesterday where a one-dimensional team has their way with you.

CoMoChief · 10-05-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

I think at some point this season the coaches asked Colquitt to go for more hang time. Seems like during the preaseason and the 1st game or so he was booming long ass punts. Then all the sudden his distance seem to drop a good 10-15 yrds but his hang time went up.

i think he's kinda shanking them because he's trying to kick them so high.

JMO

Haley probably thinks our kick covg sucks and wants to limit their return yardage.

Which doesn't surprise me, virtually ever other area on this team ****ing blows.

htismaqe · 10-05-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

I think at some point this season the coaches asked Colquitt to go for more hang time. Seems like during the preaseason and the 1st game or so he was booming long ass punts. Then all the sudden his distance seem to drop a good 10-15 yrds but his hang time went up.

i think he's kinda shanking them because he's trying to kick them so high.

JMO

Colquitt has always had hang time in the 5 seconds range. If the coaches are asking him for MORE, they're idiots.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-05-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

It's completely open to interpretation.

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Haley is smoking crack!!!

Quite possibly.

Either that or physical exhaustion from doing three jobs when he should be doing one.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-05-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

or maybe LJ is just a parrot

Sure, that's it.

A guy that got a $20 million dollar signing bonus and makes millions per year, hangs out with Beyonce & Jay-Z and a shit-ton of other successful multi-millionaires is going to parrot a KC columnist after the 26th loss in 28 games.

Geez, Jason.

Titty Meat · 10-05-2009, 12:48 PM

Who gives a **** about this team

**Dylan** · 10-05-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

I thought straight up line played better and the running game looked better, especially considered who they were facing. Picking up blitzes is still a big issue. Way, way too many WR/TE type of screens in this offense going for no gain, especially on 3rd down. Offense never gets in sync, and forces our D to play a long time. Both Flowers and Carr had some great plays, but at the same time Smith could seem to get wide open whenever they needed a big play for a first down. Cassel still holds the ball for to long, but it isn't like we can see if anyone is getting open either.

It is really hard to tell much, when you only get 1 first down in the first half week after week, it really doesn't let you establish anything, nor can you break into your play book. Haley needs to get in a QB coach, its one thing to run the O and the Team during a game, but who is working with the QB on the sideline between series?

Here's what both Eli Manning and Steve Smith had to say:

“Sometimes they tried to cover me,” said Smith, who added that the Chiefs paid more attention to him when he lined up in the slot. “But Eli does a great job of waiting until I’m open.”

Manning said the Giants were simply taking what the Chiefs gave them.
“Not all the plays are meant to go to him all the time,” Manning said.
“It just depends on the coverage and what (the other team is) doing. He did a great job running his routes vs. certain coverages.”

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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8119900	What were your impressions of the game? The game wasn't on in my market yesterday and radio coverage was spotty all day, so I only heard portions of the game. Who played well? Who didn't? Were there any surprises? For example, it sounded to me like maybe Big Irish at RT was what most of us expected - a little better at run blocking, a little worse at pass blocking. Give me your take.
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Coach Champs! Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $3718476	Colquitt concerns me as well. He had several nice punts, but it seems the inconsistency has also bit him as well. Some of his punts looked liked they were shanked. Although he did had some nice bounces towards his way, but it's still a concern to me. Cassel still shows the tendancy to overthrow his recievers and behind his receivers. Some of those drops were "catchable" but the throw was late and well behind the receiver. __________________ Super Bowl IV, LIV, LVII & LVIII Champions 2020, 2021, 2023, 2024, & 2025 AFC Champions 1985 & 2015 Major League Baseball World Series Champions 1980, 1985, 2014, & 2015 Major League Baseball American League Champions 2015 American League Central Division Champs
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FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1763986	The stats pretty much tell the story. We averaged 3.1 yards per play; they averaged 6.0 yards per play. We were dominated. The only "upside" to the game is that we did at least force the Giants offense to execute. What I mean is that it was not like the Oakland game last year at home or like Buffalo getting slaughtered by Miami yesterday where a one-dimensional team has their way with you.
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