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Old 03-08-2012, 01:38 PM  
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I kinda hope we don't. Blasphemy, I know.
Yeah, I think he can still play at a high level for a couple of years...but I'm not sure it's worth it.

I'll support it if it happens, but I'm uneasy about it.

First of all, this never works. Didn't work with Montana, Namath, Moon, Favre, etc. The aging warrior changing teams can make for a fun season (or not) but they never seem to take 'em to the SB. The only one I can think of in modern times is Kurt Warner, and he was literally on the scrap heap for a couple of years first.

I don't like tailoring an entire offense around ONE GUY who won't be here in three or four years. I don't like that it means we're starting over in 2014 or 15.

It'd be one thing if we were bringing in a quality QB to run our system, but we're going to scrap everything and run HIS system. Which will be scrapped in a couple of years also.

I'd rather try to trade up or sign an Orton and draft a Tannehill to try and build our own.
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Old 03-08-2012, 05:11 PM   #91
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Don't kid yourself, Rich Gannon was a retread too...he'd been out of football for a full season (or was it two?) when he signed with the Chiefs.
Yeah, but the point I'm making is that the last good QB decision we made was Joe Montana. Trent Green was pretty good I guess.
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:39 PM   #92
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I know what you're saying, Mr. Chris Meck. In an ideal world, the Chiefs would commit to drafting and developing their own quarterback. It's what we need ... it's what we've always needed. But, for reasons inexplicable, this franchise just doesn't seem to believe in that approach.

We're in a tough spot now, though. The defense is good enough to win in the playoffs. And, I think we have sufficient talent on offense if we patch up a few things. Do we have the time to develop a guy before the window closes on key players? Probably not. And that's what makes this Manning opportunity so attractive.

The half-full part to me is that, should Manning come aboard and lead us deep into the playoffs and even, perhaps, to the Super Bowl, our young team would gain valuable experience and confidence that can pay dividends long after Manning's head is mounted over the bar.

With that in mind, I've decided to support this idea. I don't, however, believe deep in my heart that it will happen, though. Too many past disappointments have jaded my attitude toward this organization. Plus, Manning doesn't strike me as particularly neat and tidy.

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yeah...well...I think it IS gonna happen. And I think we'll be a playoff team for a couple of years but not a SB team, and then we'll be rebuilding...again. the cupboard will be emptying, and we'll have to start over-with no QB.
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:50 PM   #93
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no as an analogy it makes sense
innna "when the germans bombed pearl harbor" type of perspective
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:40 PM   #94
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yeah...well...I think it IS gonna happen. And I think we'll be a playoff team for a couple of years but not a SB team, and then we'll be rebuilding...again. the cupboard will be emptying, and we'll have to start over-with no QB.
We are simpatico in this respect, Mr. Chris Meck.

My initial reaction to this idea was highly negative. All I saw was a quarterback whose ability to perform was realistically questionable combined with another potentially long delay in establishing a young, talented quarterback of our own. I felt like every snap that Manning would take as a Chief would be one less snap that a young quarterback could really use to both develop confidence and gain experience.

On top of that, I've hated Peyton Manning ever since he came into the league. I detested everything he stood for and even despised the things he stood on. Plus, all that frantic waving and hopping and skipping and ass waggling behind the LOS after the line was set really pisses me off. I never thought I'd ever have to root for the guy ...

But here we are. Once again. Chiefs fans. Trying to see the wrinkly nipples of happiness through the under-wire brassiere of desperation.

So, I've decided to join the hive-mind on this one ... even though it goes against everything I believe in. Of course, I'd probably sell my mother for a Super Bowl win, so ...

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Old 03-08-2012, 08:08 PM   #95
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If Peyton plays for 3-4 more years, it's not like when he retires we would be in trouble with talent like Indy was.

This team is talented across the board with players that are in their first five years in the league.

Once Peyton retires, Stanzi will keep the team exciting to watch.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:10 PM   #96
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Once Peyton retires, Stanzi will keep the team exciting to watch.
Indeed, his clipboard holding should be amongst the best in the NFL by then.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:12 PM   #98
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yeah...well...I think it IS gonna happen. And I think we'll be a playoff team for a couple of years but not a SB team, and then we'll be rebuilding...again. the cupboard will be emptying, and we'll have to start over-with no QB.
JUST a playoff team? We were a playoff team in 2010 with ****ing Matt Cassel.
How is this team not any better with a healthy Manning?
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:14 PM   #99
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it's like Carl never left...
What do you suggest the Chiefs do?

And remember, Luck and RG3 are not available.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:17 PM   #100
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JUST a playoff team? We were a playoff team in 2010 with ****ing Matt Cassel.
How is this team not any better with a healthy Manning?
But, but, but, Yahoo sports says we can't win more than 8.5 games WITH Manning. It's hopeless I tell ya. HOPELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What do you suggest the Chiefs do?

And remember, Luck and RG3 are not available.
do what Carl did when he couldn't trade for more backups
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do what Carl did when he couldn't trade for more backups
Play a 3rd round cripple?
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Play a 3rd round cripple?
nope, sign a vet cripple
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nope, sign a vet cripple
Cool. Let's just stick with Cassel.
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If Peyton plays for 3-4 more years, it's not like when he retires we would be in trouble with talent like Indy was.

This team is talented across the board with players that are in their first five years in the league.

Once Peyton retires, Stanzi will keep the team exciting to watch.
I sure would like to see him take some snaps.

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