Expectations for Fisher

[O.city]

So, we took the best LT available in the entire draft. Looks to be a good pick.


What are the expectations for him, year 1? By year 2? Year 5?

Depending on what they do with Albert will make a difference, but assuming they trade Albert.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I hope that isn't aimed at me. I said I anticipate he will be about like Albert.

He could be and should be. But so should a litany of other players that aren't. The incremental gain from Albert to Fisher can't be all that huge because Albert is pretty goddamned good.

It really isn't, there have been a couple of other straight up eyerollingly weepy comments coming from folks that are just looking to hear themselves bitch.

But let me ask you - apart from simply being pessimistic, what do you actually see in Eric Fisher the prospect that tells you he won't be better than Albert? I feel like many people such as yourself are tempering their expectations because they feel like that's the thing to do; afterall, players can bust. But don't you need to at least have a justification as to why you believe they will other than "well it's the NFL"? What doesn't Eric Fisher have in a LT?

The only thing I can see is a long list of game-film showing him beating on superior opponents. But man, if you saw his Senior Bowl tape and weren't impressed by what he did to some damn highly regarded lineman, I suggest you just weren't paying attention.

As to your last point, you win football games in the margins. The jump from a 90 rated tackle to a 95 rated tackle may only seem like a slight gain, but with the level of play being so high in the NFL, the different between a good and great player is quite stark.

There can absolutely be a huge gain from Albert to Fisher. Fisher would have to be a great player, but there's nothing that suggests he can't be.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Fish

Since when do "Good but not great" offensive linemen turn a franchise around?

This.

If he's a good but not great lineman, he's not going to turn this franchise around and he'll be nothing more than an Albert replacement.

He needs to be more than that. Asking for less is just a chickenshit defense mechanism to not be disappointed later.

It's pro-active homerism.

[mcaj22]

He needs to be Orlando Pace, which he wont be because that's a slim chance.

he will probably be more like Jake Long, play out his contract and then we bounce him for another 1st round oline draft pick in 5/6 years whatever the rookie contract lengths are now.

[ptlyon]

For giving a 1.1, he had better be a Pace/Roaf love child

[Chris Meck]

I expect him to be great, a multiple pro bowler. I fully expect that and truly think it'll come to pass.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It really isn't, there have been a couple of other straight up eyerollingly weepy comments coming from folks that are just looking to hear themselves bitch.

Quite honestly, I haven't been on CP much. I watched the first pick and watched some other crap with my wife. I figured it'd be a bunch of gushing vaginas and it sounds like it has been.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

But let me ask you - apart from simply being pessimistic, what do you actually see in Eric Fisher the prospect that tells you he won't be better than Albert? I feel like many people such as yourself are tempering their expectations because they feel like that's the thing to do; afterall, players can bust. But don't you need to at least have a justification as to why you believe they will other than "well it's the NFL"? What doesn't Eric Fisher have in a LT?

The only thing I can see is a long list of game-film showing him beating on superior opponents. But man, if you saw his Senior Bowl tape and weren't impressed by what he did to some damn highly regarded lineman, I suggest you just weren't paying attention.

I haven't paid attention. But my beef isn't with Fisher as an LT, it's more dumping our good LT to piss off the 1.1 pick on someone who might be marginally better than our LT.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

As to your last point, you win football games in the margins. The jump from a 90 rated tackle to a 95 rated tackle may only seem like a slight gain, but with the level of play being so high in the NFL, the different between a good and great player is quite stark.

There can absolutely be a huge gain from Albert to Fisher. Fisher would have to be a great player, but there's nothing that suggests he can't be.

When you're as shitty as the chiefs were at CB, S, QB, DL, WR2, TE, ILB, it makes no sense to me to use 1.1 on a pick that might improve on your really good LT.

[Garcia Bronco]

I think this was the best pick you could make without trading back. I expect the Chiefs to finish 2nd in the West this year...maybe third.

[Chris Meck]

It WAS the best pick. People that are mad about it are just not being realistic. We'd all love to get to pick Andrew Luck, but that wasn't a possibility. All you can do is make the best decisions that are available to you.

[Direckshun]

I will say this, the season we played Jordan Black at left tackle was one of my least favorite to watch.

Every single drop back could have been a sack.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

I think he'll be OK. Probably a lot like John Tait. Solid, dependable guy. Hopefully he'll stay injury free. John Alt was a big guy like Fisher, and he had back trouble a lot in the latter years of his career.

Also, Fisher doesnt appear to be nearly as "hairy" as Alt was. Thats a plus

[AdumbGuy]

I expect him to take the NFL by storm.
- Roger Goodell will start fining him for his excessive Pancake Block celebrations
- Conversely, NFL Network will show nothing but top 10 Pancake blocks celebrations.
- Cheerleaders will now swoon when the star Tackle eats an extra slice of pizza at lunch at their schools.
- He will singlehandedly make the word Tackle problematic because while he is a Tackle, he will eliminate all possibility of anybody else making a tackle. Firemen everywhere will be jealous, both from an etymological standpoint as well as a Eric Fisher is now getting ALL the poon standpoint.

And then the whole world will burn, when it is found out that he can play LEFT Tackle as well.

[Chest Rockwell]

I expect him to poop candy.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by AdumbGuy

I expect him to take the NFL by storm.
- Roger Goodell will start fining him for his excessive Pancake Block celebrations
- Conversely, NFL Network will show nothing but top 10 Pancake blocks celebrations.
- Cheerleaders will now swoon when the star Tackle eats an extra slice of pizza at lunch at their schools.
- He will singlehandedly make the word Tackle problematic because while he is a Tackle, he will eliminate all possibility of anybody else making a tackle. Firemen everywhere will be jealous, both from an etymological standpoint as well as a Eric Fisher is now getting ALL the poon standpoint.

And then the whole world will burn, when it is found out that he can play LEFT Tackle as well.

Excellent post is excellent. 10/10, would read a third time.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by trndobrd

Is Fisher married or have a girlfriend?

Jon Baldwin might soon find out. I don't think he has the dime piece honey he had coming out of Pitt anymore.

[NorthernWV]

He wasn't seen as the best tackle until about one day before the draft (when experts probably started hearing leaks the Chiefs would take him).. He'll be a decent starter but for 1.1 be disappointing overall.