Browns looking to trade Alex Mack and Joe Thomas

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Yeah, don't think about the dearth of talent on the team after Vermeil departed. Had nothing to do with having fewer picks. Nope.

So what you're saying is, if we didn't trade for Roaf then we would have gotten some random defensive depth player. And we still would have won 0 play off games, and we wouldn't have a bunch of rushing records?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

One playoff appearance and a bunch of rushing records. Yay.

Problems for that team weren't on the offensive side of the ball and you know it. This team, now, they are.

I'm not advocating a 1st round pick for the guy. A 3rd, yeah. I don't think I'd do a 2nd at this stage of his career.

[jspchief]

They got a 1st for Trent Richardson. I'm skeptical that they'll let Thomas go for a 3rd.

[Iowanian]

Alex Mack wouldn't come to KC. Thomas would have personal reasons to be ok playing in KC.

[milkman]

I firmly believe the Chiefs will, for the first time in decades, draft a QB in the first two rounds in this next draft.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by milkman

I firmly believe the Chiefs will, for the first time in decades, draft a QB in the first two rounds in this next draft.

Me too. I can't believe it but for the first time in my life they will.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Me too. I can't believe it but for the first time in my life they will.

Not one chance in seven hells

[BryanBusby]

I mean I can't ****ing stand Alex Smith and Joe Thomas probably makes him look better and more healthy....but no way you sure turndown a sure thing HoF player in a firesale.

They need a LT and making thr move stops a team like Denver from doing this and getting better.

The concept is to get better as a team. Going from a pussy brokedick to Thomas is a no brainer. Our future QB needs blocking too.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I mean I can't ****ing stand Alex Smith and Joe Thomas probably makes him look better and more healthy....but no way you sure turndown a sure thing HoF player in a firesale.

They need a LT and making thr move stops a team like Denver from doing this and getting better.

The concept is to get better as a team. Going from a pussy brokedick to Thomas is a no brainer. Our future QB needs blocking too.

Again, if we're building around a future QB, I LOVE the idea of surrounding this team with weapons.

But if this team is going to stubbornly stick behind Alex Smith, I've always contended that you need to build a top 5 defense, running game, and have elite tight ends. And spending $10M on a LT makes that really difficult when you have guys like Poe, Berry, and Kelce due huge pay days... not to mention you have to add guys on top of those guys on defense since we're still not good enough on defense.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Again, if we're building around a future QB, I LOVE the idea of surrounding this team with weapons.

But if this team is going to stubbornly stick behind Alex Smith, I've always contended that you need to build a top 5 defense, running game, and have elite tight ends. And spending $10M on a LT makes that really difficult when you have guys like Poe, Berry, and Kelce due huge pay days... not to mention you have to add guys on top of those guys on defense since we're still not good enough on defense.

Don't really care about the Alex stays hypothetical because **** him and they aren't winning dick with him.

They key to winning a Super Bowl is having a balanced team that's well coached. Only time this team is balanced is when they suck.

Get rid of the shit dick QB and build a well-rounded squad.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I mean I can't ****ing stand Alex Smith and Joe Thomas probably makes him look better and more healthy....but no way you sure turndown a sure thing HoF player in a firesale.

They need a LT and making thr move stops a team like Denver from doing this and getting better.

The concept is to get better as a team. Going from a pussy brokedick to Thomas is a no brainer. Our future QB needs blocking too.

Nah, I think we need to have a shitty offensive line until Smith leaves. That will be a great spot for a rookie QB to step in.

[kccrow]

This is for Discuss... This is the reason KC was devoid of talent when Dick Vermeil left. It isn't because of 1 trade. Its because KC traded top picks every single year he was involved. They then whiffed on several of the remaining picks. I blame King Carl more than anyone.

2001: Traded 1st for Trent Green (QB), Traded 2nd and 3rd for Dick Vermeil (HC)
2002: Traded 3rd to move up in Round 1 for Ryan Sims (DT)
2003: Traded 3rd for Willie Roaf (OT) that was conditional 4th
2004: Traded out of Round 1 to Detroit (picked DT Junior Siavii Round 2)
2005: Traded 2nd for Patrick Surtain, Traded 3rd for John Welbourn

[ChiefsCountry]

Chiefs aren't drafting a QB. They build towards 8-8 to 10-6 type team. Might as well see what the Browns want for Thomas and Mack. It would make the line very solid at least. The excuses would keep getting smaller and smaller for Alex Smith.

[O.city]

The whole throwing short of the sticks on third down crowd is maddening.

The defense is playing to the first down marker. It's not an abysmal thing throwing short