Chiefs draft notes from Terez/Robinson podcast

[staylor26]

Just listened to Terez and Robinson on the Yahoo Sports podcast.

- Robinson heard from 2 different sources that the Chiefs have been kicking the tires on a lot of potential 1st round round WR’s. Specifically mentioned Reagor and Shenault.

- Terez said the Chiefs will go IOL early (first 2 days) and watch out for Cesar Ruiz after a trade down.

- Terez likes Dobbins and has heard the Chiefs are interested as well, but they also really like DeAndre Washington.

- The bottom line is the Chiefs are going to “pump up the asset of Mahomes” early.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I really think some people haven't watched Justin Herbert play, if you watch his games you come away unimpressed every single time....EVERY SINGLE TIME. I watched that fool play no less than 15 times.

Dude, look at this game vs LSU. Look at NFL type plays. He rarely completes them. You can find examples all over this game of NFL type situations in which Tua doesn't get it done. A few quick examples:



@ :30 Secs: Rolls out, under pressure, ball batted down.

@ :40 Sec: Immediate pressure, eyes drop right away and looks to run. Drops the football.

@ :53 Sec: Pressured, ugly scramble followed by a duck/errant pass that Jeudy saves.

@ 1:40, again pressured, pass falls incomplete.


It goes on and on and on and on....

I'm sure you can find clean pocket highlights with WR's running wide open and Tua making the play. I'm sure he has NFL type throws here and there. But his overall body of work screams fool's gold imo.

You know when you'd put on "Mahomes vs" footage you'd see a lot of improving that ends in completed passes? You'd go, "dang, he MADE that play happen despite the pass rush etc".

Well Tua is the ****ing opposite of that.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Dude, look at this game vs LSU. Look at NFL type plays. He rarely completes them. You can find examples all over this game of NFL type situations in which Tua doesn't get it done. A few quick examples:



@ :30 Secs: Rolls out, under pressure, ball batted down.

@ :40 Sec: Immediate pressure, eyes drop right away and looks to run. Drops the football.

@ :53 Sec: Pressured, ugly scramble followed by a duck/errant pass that Jeudy saves.

@ 1:40, again pressured, pass falls incomplete.


It goes on and on and on and on....

I'm sure you can find clean pocket highlights with WR's running wide open and Tua making the play. I'm sure he has NFL type throws here and there. But his overall body of work screams fool's gold imo.

You know when you'd put on "Mahomes vs" footage you'd see a lot of improving that ends in completed passes? You'd go, "dang, he MADE that play happen despite the pass rush etc".

Well Tua is the ****ing opposite of that.

[RunKC]

Laviska Shenault is a very good value player that is very likely to be there at 63 due to his bad combine time due to a core injury that needed surgery. Kind of crazy he actually ran below a 4.6 with that injury.

On film he looks like a solid high 4.4 speed player who separates. He actually did a ton of things that Sammy does here, including his versatility playing every WR position at Colorado. Speaking of...his draft profile pro comparison on NFL.com? Sammy Watkins.

I would be thrilled to get this guy at 63. The Donkey tears would be glorious since he’s from their back yard.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I better call my shot, this is no time for weakness:

Tua and Burrow are the only QBs I'd take in the first three rounds.

THAT I agree with.

But I'm not all in on Burrow either.

Tua I WAS, but that low wonderlic scares me some.

[ToxSocks]

**** i just picked a random spot in the video. @ 2:40. Under pressure and misses a slant high.

You can find this kind of stuff from him all day.

[KChiefs1]

I trust in whatever Andy & Veach do.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Laviska Shenault is a very good value player that is very likely to be there at 63 due to his bad combine time due to a core injury that needed surgery. Kind of crazy he actually ran below a 4.6 with that injury.

On film he looks like a solid high 4.4 speed player who separates. He actually did a ton of things that Sammy does here, including his versatility playing every WR position a Colorado. Speaking of...his draft profile pro comparison on NFL.com? Sammy Watkins.

It would be thrilled to get this guy at 63. The Donkey years would be glorious since he’s from their back yard.

He's not gonna drop to 63, if you want him you'd either have to take him at 32 or drop back to like 40.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He's not gonna drop to 63, if you want him you'd either have to take him at 32 or drop back to like 40.

This.

[Mecca]

It wouldn't be the worst thing, his injury probably cost him being a 4.4 guy and in most years he'd be a top 20 pick.

[Kiimo]

Counterpoints on the Shenault love:

10. LAVISKA SHENAULT, Colorado (6-0 ½, 227, 4.58, 2-3): Classic boom-or-bust prospect. “Mental and injury,” one scout replied when asked why Shenault was his choice to bust. “He’s always been the best guy on his team. You put him in one position and he’s just going to flounder. He’s head and shoulders in the bust factor above everyone else. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a big fall.” Played split end for the Buffaloes but also did extensive damage as a ‘wildcat’ quarterback. “Little bit immature but, my God, is he big and powerful,” a second scout said. “His ’18 film was way better than his ’19 film. He’s a power guy, and those guys play.” He’s coming off of core muscle surgery in late February and also has had shoulder and turf toe surgery. “He’s kind of got some Cordarrelle Patterson to him in terms of his role,” a third scout said. “Not as explosive. With that body type, I don’t see A.J. Brown. A.J. made so many contested catches and was so productive for three years. A.J. was a receiver when he came out. This guy is an athlete. He’ll have to make a transition to a receiver, and I think he’s going to have a tough time.” Finished with 149 catches for 1,943 (13.0) and 10 TDs. “He’s not bad, just not a lot of personality,” said a fourth scout. “Kind of low-key.” Wonderlic of 14. Small hands (9). A third-year junior from DeSoto, Texas.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Counterpoints on the Shenault love:

10. LAVISKA SHENAULT, Colorado (6-0 ½, 227, 4.58, 2-3): Classic boom-or-bust prospect. “Mental and injury,” one scout replied when asked why Shenault was his choice to bust. “He’s always been the best guy on his team. You put him in one position and he’s just going to flounder. He’s head and shoulders in the bust factor above everyone else. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a big fall.” Played split end for the Buffaloes but also did extensive damage as a ‘wildcat’ quarterback. “Little bit immature but, my God, is he big and powerful,” a second scout said. “His ’18 film was way better than his ’19 film. He’s a power guy, and those guys play.” He’s coming off of core muscle surgery in late February and also has had shoulder and turf toe surgery. “He’s kind of got some Cordarrelle Patterson to him in terms of his role,” a third scout said. “Not as explosive. With that body type, I don’t see A.J. Brown. A.J. made so many contested catches and was so productive for three years. A.J. was a receiver when he came out. This guy is an athlete. He’ll have to make a transition to a receiver, and I think he’s going to have a tough time.” Finished with 149 catches for 1,943 (13.0) and 10 TDs. “He’s not bad, just not a lot of personality,” said a fourth scout. “Kind of low-key.” Wonderlic of 14. Small hands (9). A third-year junior from DeSoto, Texas.

A guy who did a lot of things on offense with an interesting skill set..sounds like a dude Andy Reid can work with.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He's not gonna drop to 63, if you want him you'd either have to take him at 32 or drop back to like 40.

Nah I doubt he goes that high. I don’t think he’ll be a top 50 pick with Pittman, Higgins, Mims and the RB’s being in high demand, not to mention the LB’s and DB runs expected in early rd 2.

With teams shying away from questionable players with red flags early I can really see him falling. That’s a classic injury that you want your own staff to check on a private visit.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Nah I doubt he goes that high. I don’t think he’ll be a top 50 pick with Pittman, Higgins, Mims and the RB’s being in high demand, not to mention the LB’s and DB runs expected in early rd 2.

With teams shying away from questionable players with red flags early I can really see him falling. That’s a classic injury that you want your own staff to check on a private visit.

It depends what teams want to be honest, but if a team thinks he's the player he was in 18 and has no issue with injury, he's a high value player, someone will reach up I think.

Some of these teams at the front of 2 are going to be looking at receivers...

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I Don't care what this guy has to say. Like as has been said, pundits had Mitch Trubisky over Mahomes.

People are wrong every year so im just going with my eyes this year. Makes it more fun as i'll have a rooting interest in being right or wrong.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by Mecca

A guy who did a lot of things on offense with an interesting skill set..sounds like a dude Andy Reid can work with.

so does Aiyuk

5. BRANDON AIYUK, Arizona State (5-11 ½, 205, 4.53): Aiyuk played in junior college for two seasons. He played second fiddle to N’Keal Harry in 2018 before breaking out in ’19. “He’s (5-11½) but he’s got an 80-inch wingspan, which is so disproportionately long for his body, so he’s really a big target for a smaller guy,” one scout said. “He has ranginess to him, yet he’s compact enough where his change of direction is great. He’s really explosive on tape. Even going back to his junior year, he only had 33 catches but just grading the flash plays he was better than N’Keal Harry.” He caught 65 balls as a senior, finishing with 98 for 1,666 (17.0) ands 11 TDs. “The first three or four games this year it was kind of whatever,” said another scout. “Then something clicked and he really turned it on. Their offensive line was horrible, so a lot of his deep routes didn’t really have time to develop because the quarterback (freshman Jayden Daniels) had to get the ball out. He became that quarterback’s best friend. He’s underrated. Early on, he comes in as your No. 1 punt returner and kickoff guy.” He has a Wonderlic score of 23. “Explosive with a 40-inch vert, excellent route runner, quickness,” said a third scout. “You could compare Greg Jennings to him. He’s better than Nelson Agholor.” From Reno, Nev.