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Old 01-03-2022, 06:20 PM  
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Reid is a terrible chess player

Andy Reid is apparently incapable of thinking several moves ahead. As an NFL head coach, he should have been able to quickly think through what he would have done if he had the ball at the goal line in a tie game with 2:30 to go and 4 downs to score. He should have been able to easily deduce that he would do exactly what Cincinnati did. But he didn't. And that's absolutely incredible.

Sadly, it's clear that he has no idea that his drop dead core philosophy should be, "If you're going to beat me, it's not going to be because my best player was standing on the sidelines, it's going to be because you stopped him while he was on the field."

Because Reid could not bring himself to do what was necessary - in other words, to let the other team score - to get his best player back on the field with time on the clock to win the game, he permitted Cincinnati to win that game. It was HIS failure and his alone.

It's not a question of not competing on defense if you let the other team score. It's a question of what in that situation is your best chance to win. And the Chiefs' best chance to win wasn't to stop Cincinnati. They were going to score. The question was how much time - if any - would be on the clock with they did. The Chiefs' best chance to win was to get Mahomes back on the field as fast as possible, no matter the cost.

No matter how big a steaming pile of dogsh*t the officials were, no matter how stupid Spagnuolo was in how he failed to stop Chase, no matter the holding call on the kick return touchdown or Tyreke dropping the ball in the first half...everything comes down to Reid's lack of a philosophy that says if he's going to lose, it's not going to be with his best guy standing on the sidelines.

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Old 01-03-2022, 08:18 PM   #91
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Reid is KC's best coach since Hank Stram, shut the **** up
Honestly, I think Schottenheimer was a better head coach than Reid. Until Reid landed Mahomes, he was basically the offensive version of the defensive Schottenheimer.

When Marty had a legitimate star QB, he went to the AFC Championship game. Peterson is responsible for the quarterbacks Marty had to work with, and Peterson was responsible for deciding that Nick Lowery was too expensive, and going with that POS kicker who will not be named. If Peterson had just paid Lowery, that 95 team probably wins the SB with the #1 defense in football.

I am not saying that Marty was more successful, because Reid obviously has the ring, but without Mahomes, Reid doesn't even get us to a single AFC Championship game. Hell, other than Montana, Alex Smith was better than any QB Carl Peterson ever signed for Marty.

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Old 01-03-2022, 08:20 PM   #92
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I shutter at the thought of what Marty would have done with Mahomes.
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Old 01-03-2022, 08:20 PM   #93
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Honestly, I think Schottenheimer was a better head coach than Reid. Until Reid landed Mahomes, he was basically the offensive version of the defensive Schottenheimer.

When Marty had a legitimate star QB, he went to the AFC Championship game. Peterson is responsible for the quarterbacks Marty had to work with, and Peterson was responsible for deciding that Nick Lowery was too expensive, and going with that POS kicker who will not be named. If Peterson had just paid Lowery, that 95 team probably wins the SB with the #1 defense in football.

I am not saying that Marty was more successful, because Reid obviously has the ring, but without Mahomes, Reid doesn't even get us to a single AFC Championship game. Hell, other than Montana, Alex Smith was better than any QB Carl Peterson ever signed for Marty.

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Old 01-03-2022, 08:30 PM   #94
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Honestly, I think Schottenheimer was a better head coach than Reid. Until Reid landed Mahomes, he was basically the offensive version of the defensive Schottenheimer.

When Marty had a legitimate star QB, he went to the AFC Championship game. Peterson is responsible for the quarterbacks Marty had to work with, and Peterson was responsible for deciding that Nick Lowery was too expensive, and going with that POS kicker who will not be named. If Peterson had just paid Lowery, that 95 team probably wins the SB with the #1 defense in football.

I am not saying that Marty was more successful, because Reid obviously has the ring, but without Mahomes, Reid doesn't even get us to a single AFC Championship game. Hell, other than Montana, Alex Smith was better than any QB Carl Peterson ever signed for Marty.

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I mean you make a couple of reasonable points but don't forget that Marty benched Rich Gannon for Elvis Grbac for another 1 and done playoff game. He keeps Gannon we probably win the Superbowl that year. Gannon didn't put up amazing stats that year but I remember watching and he was good for us. That was a terrible coaching decision. Reid also went to 3 NFC championship games with the Eagles and 1 Superbowl, ya McNabb was good and of course Mahomes is amazing but still.

Reid also came to KC after we earned the #1 draft pick on a pretty bad talent year for the draft and we immediately went to the playoffs with alex smith

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Old 01-03-2022, 08:32 PM   #95
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Um what
I was pretty clear. I think overall, Marty was a better HC than Reid. I think Reid would have been just as successful as Marty, meaning zero SB wins, if we never drafted Mahomes.

Without Mahomes, Reid had 2 of the 4 worst playoff losses in NFL history, when it comes to losing leads. In the history of the NFL. The losses to Indy and Tennessee were 2 of the 4 biggest playoff leads given up in a loss in NFL playoff history.

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Old 01-03-2022, 08:35 PM   #98
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Honestly, I think Schottenheimer was a better head coach than Reid. Until Reid landed Mahomes, he was basically the offensive version of the defensive Schottenheimer.

When Marty had a legitimate star QB, he went to the AFC Championship game. Peterson is responsible for the quarterbacks Marty had to work with, and Peterson was responsible for deciding that Nick Lowery was too expensive, and going with that POS kicker who will not be named. If Peterson had just paid Lowery, that 95 team probably wins the SB with the #1 defense in football.

I am not saying that Marty was more successful, because Reid obviously has the ring, but without Mahomes, Reid doesn't even get us to a single AFC Championship game. Hell, other than Montana, Alex Smith was better than any QB Carl Peterson ever signed for Marty.

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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Lol no ****ing way.
Without Mahomes, Reid had 2 of the 4 worst playoff losses in NFL history, when it comes to losing leads. In the history of the NFL. The losses to Indy and Tennessee were 2 of the 4 biggest playoff leads given up in a loss in NFL playoff history.

Without Mahomes Reid doesn't make a single AFC Championship game. Ever.

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I was pretty clear. I think overall, Marty was a better HC than Reid. I think Reid would have been just as successful as Marty, meaning zero SB wins, if we never drafted Mahomes.

Without Mahomes, Reid had 2 of the 4 worst playoff losses in NFL history, when it comes to losing leads. In the history of the NFL. The losses to Indy and Tennessee were 2 of the 4 biggest playoff leads given up in a loss in NFL playoff history.

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I was pretty clear. I think overall, Marty was a better HC than Reid. I think Reid would have been just as successful as Marty, meaning zero SB wins, if we never drafted Mahomes.

Without Mahomes, Reid had 2 of the 4 worst playoff losses in NFL history, when it comes to losing leads. In the history of the NFL. The losses to Indy and Tennessee were 2 of the 4 biggest playoff leads given up in a loss in NFL playoff history.

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Without Mahomes Reid took Donavon McNabb to a SB.

Just stop you are trying too hard.

Marty had some extremely talented teams he squandered away with conservative shit play calling.
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Ah, no wonder. A burst of dumbassery.
So, at the time of those losses, you thought Reid was the best HC in Chiefs history?

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So, at the time of those losses, you thought Reid was the best HC in Chiefs history?

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Let's see. 3 straight championship games, 2 straight SBs with a win.

Hm.....hard to say!

Good ****ing God you guys are dumb.
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Without Mahomes Reid took Donavon McNabb to a SB.



Just stop you are trying too hard.



Marty had some extremely talented teams he squandered away with conservative shit play calling.
The quote I originally responded to said Reid was the best HC in Chiefs history. I was talking about Reid's history with the Chiefs.

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