Chiefs will need to adjust and figure this out

[Arch Stanton]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Von Miller whipped his ass.

You mean the Von Miller facing felony DV charges for the last year, that has not been suspended a single game?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Arch Stanton

You mean the Von Miller facing felony DV charges for the last year, that has not been suspended a single game?

He got suspended 4 games this year...

[Arch Stanton]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He got suspended 4 games this year...

I thought that one was for child molestation.

[Chiefnj2]

If the OL is having a bad day, why aren’t they calling more plays to
get the ball out of Pats hands quickly?

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

If the OL is having a bad day, why aren’t they calling more plays to
get the ball out of Pats hands quickly?

Some of that is on Pat not taking the check down when it’s available. Holds the ball hoping to make a bigger play.

[Titty Meat]

But QBR!


/kc connection

[irafreak]

They'll adjust. They always do. We have a hiccup or two each season where we look pretty lousy but andy becomes a wizard in the post season. Bills should have saved it for the playoffs.

[chiefforlife]

Watching that was awful but somehow it seemed even worse live.

Morris wasnt that bad in this game, he looked ok. The interior was getting destroyed.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Another OL tweet but it’s interesting. Notice anything the Bills did?

Here are the cutups of the plays where Patrick Mahomes was listed as pressured. #Chiefs #ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/nmJWOrom9T

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) November 19, 2024

A lot of times, including the last play of the game, they had 2 DL on one side of the OL crash hard and bull rush the G and T. They see Mahomes flushing out constantly. They crash the OL and flush Mahomes out the way they want and have a LB spy fly to that zone they force Mahomes to go to so he’s got instant pressure in his face.

This also cuts off half of the field. Chargers did this in week 2 and Mahomes struggled badly against it. Bills copied that from Harbaugh and I expect other teams to do the same.

Haven't read the entire thread and everyone's responses, but the great thing is all of this is on tape and understandable.

I'd like to think by time the playoffs get here, Andy, Nagy and Heck will have come up with a scheme to work around this and to counter it. There's still plenty of time to do something about it and get a good plan in place.

But 2 things (non-scheme based) need to change;

1. Pat needs to quit bailing pre-emptively

2. Interior O-Line needs to be better and play up to standard.

The tackles are what they are. We know that and we're just gonna have to scheme around it, mainly the left side as the biggest offender.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

I'd like to think by time the playoffs get here, Andy, Nagy and Heck will have come up with a scheme to work around this and to counter it. There's still plenty of time to do something about it and get a good plan in place.

The Chiefs had almost 500 yards of offense against the Saints and nearly 400 against the Bucs.

They know what they need to do.

They just have to execute.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Chiefs had almost 500 yards of offense against the Saints and nearly 400 against the Bucs.

They know what they need to do.

They just have to execute.

Sure.

But personally, I'm more concerned about points than yards.

Setting that aside, at what point do we begin to look at some of those games as outliers and not the norm.

How many other 400+ yard games for Chiefs offense this season, outside of those two? I don't think any.

And I think it's pretty well established at this point that both the Saints and Bucs defense are pretty bad.

So, yes, ultimately comes down to execution, but we're 10 games into the season now and getting a lot more of one than the other.

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

Sure.

But personally, I'm more concerned about points than yards.

Setting that aside, at what point do we begin to look at some of those games as outliers and not the norm.

How many other 400+ yard games for Chiefs offense this season, outside of those two? I don't think any.

And I think it's pretty well established at this point that both the Saints and Bucs defense are pretty bad.

So, yes, ultimately comes down to execution, but we're 10 games into the season now and getting a lot more of one than the other.

We fix the LT position, even with someone mediocre, and that is another 7-10 ppg added. I say we move Thuney to LT, he has to be able to play it infinitely better than Wanya and Kingsley, and then let Wanya play LG.

We are in the midst of a three-peat attempt and the AFC competition is fierce, and the NFC Lions is fierce as well, we cannot be dicking around with the LT position right now, we need to get someone at LT that is at least somewhat competent.

[JPH83]

I wouldn't pay Trey, he'll be too expensive. But the reason he'll be too expensive is...he's been pretty damn good. Not just "good value for the pick" but...good, certainly well above average.

Every year he's had a few games where he's been beaten like a drum, and a lot more where he's been very, very solid imo. If one of those games happens in the playoffs, yep, gonna be a problem. But there is no way he is a greater problem than the LT situation or Mahomes' flushing early.

Morris is not good. Kingsley is horrendous. If we can get SOMETHING to work at LT I think we're fine.

[htismaqe]

Trey got owned by Ed Oliver. The Chiefs will likely see the Bills again. I get everyone is focused on LT but they could scheme around it if their incredibly expensive IOL could actually hold up.

[Megatron96]

Not much to add here, pretty much everything that needs to be said has been said.

A couple things I'll say is, 1) Pat needs to be more accurate across the board, not just one the deep shots. He's just not been consistently as accurate as he could be or as he needs to be, even on the shorter passes. And a lot of that is his footwork/throwing mechanics. He almost missed that short out-route to DHop because he threw that ball with no platform. Then that throw to DHop on the go-route was not well-placed and it was short, and most of that was the fact that he has no platform, and he throws that ball kind of 3/4 slot, instead of over the shoulder. And there was no reason for him to throw it the way he did.

And 2), he needs to trust his receivers more and throw with anticipation. That first INT doesn't happen if he trusts Gray to be where he's supposed to be and just throws when he hits his back foot. Baker would've thrown that ball on time.

If the cleans up just those two things, he'll look a lot better. Doesn't solve everything, but it'll probably help move the chains and probably his confidence. Ymmv.