Possible Chiefs\Saints trade

[C-Mac]

McShay's blog...

DE Chris Long will be the Chiefs' pick if he's available, but should he be off the board Kansas City will want to retreat. swapping first-round picks with New Orleans and bringing [Jamaal]Brown into the fold would be an attractive scenario, as the Chiefs could then opt for another offensive lineman at No. 10 or get a much better value on their preferred defensive end, Derrick Harvey. And don't forget that extra picks beyond the swap of first-rounders would likely be included as well, so this would be a hard deal for Kansas City to turn down.

[ChiefsCountry]

Brown was in the same draft class as DJ, so he is still pretty young for our rebuilding movement. It would be something I would at least consider.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Character concern and his play trailed off. Plus he'll be demanding a payday before long.

I'm almost certain the Chiefs will pass. They want picks, not players.

What are his character concerns? I really don't know. The guy hasn't played an entire season yet, so either he's going to come here and excel and can expect a reasonable payout- which we're going to have to pay any tackle we have a good sum if he's going to perform like we are expecting. We could also trade for the guy and redo his contract with an extension in the hopes of getting him for a few more years at a cheaper price.

Besides, we have plenty of cap space right now. We're in no danger of cap space. We only have 51 players on the roster right now and alot of our guys will be playing under rookie contract for the next few years, so you could presumably sign the guy to an extentsion, and spread his salary more evenly instead of backloading the later years. This is commonly done, and teams usually have to put roster bonuses or up the signing bonus so the player will agree to backload the contract. What you would basically do is get him secured longer, lessen his signing bonus and not put yourself behind the 8 ball with a rediculous salary jump / roster bonus and be able to pay him a bit more on a yearly basis while we do have a lot more room under the cap. If he does pan out and has a backloaded contract / roster bonus- he would probably be right up against the same time we'll be having to resign a lot of our draft guys that are coming off their rookie contracts and be looking for much larger contracts. That would be a very silly thing to try to put yourself in a situation of having to decide who you can afford when you could have structured it beforehand to avoid that situation.

[Mecca]

If the Chiefs do that and still take Albert you're looking at one of them either being a RT or a Guard.....hell Brown may be better suited to be a RT to be honest.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If the Chiefs do that and still take Albert you're looking at one of them either being a RT or a Guard.....hell Brown may be better suited to be a RT to be honest.

And take Chris Williams at 17, the OL people would be jerking off for days.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

And take Chris Williams at 17, the OL people would be jerking off for days.

Then we'd still win 2 games and they'd wonder why.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

And take Chris Williams at 17, the OL people would be jerking off for days.

If we can get Brown and Williams....then I'd rather not grab Albert in the 1st. I'd try and get a CB like Jenkins or the BPA. Possibly look at trading back into the top 10 if Ryan is still there.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Cocina_Basement

What are his character concerns? I really don't know. The guy hasn't played an entire season yet, so either he's going to come here and excel and can expect a reasonable payout- which we're going to have to pay any tackle we have a good sum if he's going to perform like we are expecting. We could also trade for the guy and redo his contract with an extension in the hopes of getting him for a few more years at a cheaper price.

Besides, we have plenty of cap space right now. We're in no danger of cap space. We only have 51 players on the roster right now and alot of our guys will be playing under rookie contract for the next few years, so you could presumably sign the guy to an extentsion, and spread his salary more evenly instead of backloading the later years. This is commonly done, and teams usually have to put roster bonuses or up the signing bonus so the player will agree to backload the contract. What you would basically do is get him secured longer, lessen his signing bonus and not put yourself behind the 8 ball with a rediculous salary jump / roster bonus and be able to pay him a bit more on a yearly basis while we do have a lot more room under the cap. If he does pan out and has a backloaded contract / roster bonus- he would probably be right up against the same time we'll be having to resign a lot of our draft guys that are coming off their rookie contracts and be looking for much larger contracts. That would be a very silly thing to try to put yourself in a situation of having to decide who you can afford when you could have structured it beforehand to avoid that situation.

There was a domestic abuse charge leveled at him before 2007, but it was dropped. Then his production sagged in 2007. Character sirens should be going off in your head.

I like the guy a lot, but he's not worth it by himself. We shouldn't be paying anybody big this offseason.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Laz

if the Saints can get Dorsey by moving up to our pick then we should just take Dorsey.

Dude, you're so `money.` YOU'RE SO MONEY AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT!

[Simply Red]

There's nothing wrong with letting the girls know that you're money and that you want to party.

[doomy3]

I would take this trade in a split second. Brown would be the second rated tackle in this draft and probably a top 10 pick. If you can get him and a #10 pick for a #5, I wouldn't even think twice about it.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

There was a domestic abuse charge leveled at him before 2007, but it was dropped. Then his production sagged in 2007. Character sirens should be going off in your head.

I like the guy a lot, but he's not worth it by himself. We shouldn't be paying anybody big this offseason.

Do you know the specifics of the incident? I've been around the law long enough to know that just b/c you got charged with something that it doesn't = he's a bad guy. Plenty of crash bitches out there and cops routinely will charge people with chit that once a DA looks it over sees its a junk charge.

[Mr. Kotter]

I'd do this trade if it comes down--but only if Dorsey, Long, Ellis, and Gholston are all gone.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

There was a domestic abuse charge leveled at him before 2007, but it was dropped. Then his production sagged in 2007. Character sirens should be going off in your head.

I like the guy a lot, but he's not worth it by himself. We shouldn't be paying anybody big this offseason.

He's under contract until 2011, and makes somewhere in the neighborhood of 750k per year.

We wouldn't have to pay him big money for quite a while.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

I'd do this trade if it comes down--but only if Dorsey, Long, Ellis, and Gholston are all gone.

That isn't going to happen, just doing the trade means you won't get any of them.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

He's under contract until 2011, and makes somewhere in the neighborhood of 750k per year.

We wouldn't have to pay him big money for quite a while.

Unless he plays well next year....and then I'm assuming he'll want a pretty hefty contract.