Who has more td then

[-King-]

It doesn't matter what he thought? What type of shit is that? It was real close to being picked, 3 Cards were in that corner. I'd rather have a qb who thinks he's going to throw a TD every time than one who thinks he threw a bad ball and a pick. Seriously, what do you mean that it doesnt matter what he thinks? The first throw Holmes was more open than the 2nd and Ben led him too much and threw it too high.

Ben is a good qb. But to say he is great is a great overstatement. There are atleast 10 qbs better.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

It doesn't matter what he thought? What type of shit is that? It was real close to being picked, 3 Cards were in that corner. I'd rather have a qb who thinks he's going to throw a TD every time than one who thinks he threw a bad ball and a pick. Seriously, what do you mean that it doesnt matter what he thinks? The first throw Holmes was more open than the 2nd and Ben led him too much and threw it too high.

Ben is a good qb. But to say he is great is a great overstatement. There are atleast 10 qbs better.

I don't care if he thinks it was a good throw or not. It was a great throw, a super bowl winning throw, a throw that will be replayed on highlights for the next century, the kind of throw Tyler Thigpen could never make in his wildest dreams.

[Brock]

Does anybody care whether Joe Montana thinks he threw a great pass that Dwight Clark had to leap for in the end zone?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Brock

Does anybody care whether Joe Montana thinks he threw a great pass that Dwight Clark had to leap for in the end zone?

Joe Montana is on a whole other level. He made the 49ers what they were. Ben does not make Pittsburgh who they are. It was clear that Montana was the one who lead them to the titles, the defense led the Steelers to this superbowl. #s tell the whole story. Look at their numbers, during this season Ben had 17 TDs 15 picks. Are you saying he is the reason they made it to the superbowl?

P.S. Thanks for the neg rep.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Joe Montana is on a whole other level. He made the 49ers what they were. Ben does not make Pittsburgh who they are. It was clear that Montana was the one who lead them to the titles, the defense led the Steelers to this superbowl. #s tell the whole story. Look at their numbers, during this season Ben had 17 TDs 15 picks. Are you saying he is the reason they made it to the superbowl?

P.S. Thanks for the neg rep.

Joe Montana was surrounded by talent, quit acting like he wasn't. That's just reeruned.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Brock

I don't care if he thinks it was a good throw or not. It was a great throw, a super bowl winning throw, a throw that will be replayed on highlights for the next century, the kind of throw Tyler Thigpen could never make in his wildest dreams.

It was more of Holmes play than it was Bens. Bens part was luck(he admitted it) Holmes was skill. He was the one who caught it and had the body control to get both feet down. Stop acting like Ben was the one who made that drive. It was Holmes the whole drive.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

It was more of Holmes play than it was Bens. Bens part was luck(he admitted it) Holmes was skill. He was the one who caught it and had the body control to get both feet down. Stop acting like Ben was the one who made that drive. It was Holmes the whole drive.

It was Ben who made the drive. Avoiding sacks, making throws that third tier guys like Thigpen can only fantasize about. It doesn't matter what he says, of course he'll give the credit to everybody else, that's what a leader does.

[-King-]

PS. Thigpen had two 1k receivers(Tony G. and Bowe), Ben only had 1. Not saying Thigpen is better, but just throwing stuff out.

Give Thigpen a qualified qb coach and he'll learn to play in the pro. Or he can be like Peyton and play mainly out of a shotgun until they get to goal line situations. If he had a good qb coach, he'd be doing fine. You people act like his qb coach was McDaniels.

[kcbubb]

to all the people that love Sanchez, if he would have stayed in school, who would you take with the #3 pick?

[Danman]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

to all the people that love Sanchez, if he would have stayed in school, who would you take with the #3 pick?

Apples and oranges. He did come out. Next.

[DeezNutz]

Someone wants one of those "bargain" top 3 picks. Like a Jake Long. Cheap guys.

[Mecca]

If you think Sanchez is risky, how is that risky in comparison to, starting Tyler Thigpen and then drafting a spread monkey in the 1st round next year..

Going with 2 spread monkeys sounds way more risky in my view.

[Danman]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If you think Sanchez is risky, how is that risky in comparison to, starting Tyler Thigpen and then drafting a spread monkey in the 1st round next year..

Going with 2 spread monkeys sounds way more risky in my view.

Mecca,

You seen the article about NFL says no to spread in draft planet?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Danman

Mecca,

You seen the article about NFL says no to spread in draft planet?

Yea I posted on it...I started a thread about 5 months ago saying I thought the spread was hurting players in developing for the NFL game..

I was ahead of the curve.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea I posted on it...I started a thread about 5 months ago saying I thought the spread was hurting players in developing for the NFL game..

I was ahead of the curve.

So you can Dick Curl and Herm for not being able to develop qbs, yet you are already to throw Thigpen down the drain because he didnt develop? I'm on board for which ever qb Pioli and Haley decide to go with. But I dont see the logic in calling Thigpen a spread monkey if he wasn't even coached by anyone good.