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Old 03-02-2009, 08:22 AM  
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A dash of Curry solidifies Chiefs defense.

Obviously, the Chiefs are going to the 3-4.

Lets look at the Defensive line first. The Chiefs have a couple of guys in Boone and McBride that are DE/DT hybrids. They will be able to play DE in the 3-4. McBride has focused on staying slim while in the NFL becuse he was playing end in the 4-3. He will be allowed to Bulk up. Boone is a heck of a fit in the 3-4 as well.

Dorsey often tied up two blockers last year. He will also be allowed to go inside and outside. Perhaps not the prototypical NT... but a guy who has flexibility and will be better at NT than some in here realize. In college, he was asked to merely hold the line of scrimage. He wasn't asked to get upfield. In the 3-4, it will be very similar whether he plays end or NT.

Tank will play the nose exclusively, which should be a good fit on run downs. We also still have Ron Edwards, who is a big body that can rotate in at NT.

Now, linebacker, the OLB's are Hali and Vrabel. Hali should get double digit sacks this year with the switch to the 3-4. He won't be on the line every down which should keep the wear and tear on his body down a bit. It will allow him to be in space, which he plays well in.

I know that some don't think he is fast enough. I think those guys are foolish, but then again, they think I am foolish for thinking he will be a great fit. The great thing is that we will get to see this year who is right.

DJ will move inside. This will help DJ's game. The defensive line for the 3-4 isn't trying to get upfield. They are merely trying to hold the line of scrimage. This will allow DJ to play sideline to sideline and make more plays.

Now, the secondary was pretty good last year. Bernard Pollard will be allowed to play inside the box more and Page will be more of a traditional safety. Morgan is the x factor here because he has more ranged than Pollard and is a better tackler than Page.

The Chiefs starting corners are pretty solid with Carr and Flowers. With the additional pass rush that the Chiefs should be getting, I expect that these guys will do just fine.

Now, comes the spice of the defense.... Curry. Curry is an absolute beast that will roam the middle of the field and make tackle after tackle. Curry is good in coverage, and will be able to rush the passer from the middle of the field on blitz's. This will allow him to be more effective rushing the passer. Inside blitzes are effective because of the speed of the blitzer and a lane created by the outside rush. Curry is fast enough, that he will be able to disquise the blitzes very well and won't have to be close to the line of scrimage to be effective. Curry is the best fit for this team at #3, and will make the biggest impact of any player the Chiefs can draft IMO.

I know I will get flamed for this. I know that some think that McBride, Hali and Dorsey are busts. I think that they are players in the Patriots mold. Guys who love the game, who are smart and who never give up.

I hope that Curry somehow falls to the Chiefs, because if he does, the Chiefs will have a defense that will be at least top half of the league next year, if not top 10.

He is a dynamic leader on defense, and I think the next Ray Lewis. As such, I think he is worth the #3 pick.

Now, flame away. After having the Chiefs effectively remove the option of drafting the dirty Sanchez.... nothing can bring me down....
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:41 AM   #106
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No he didn't. He may have played there in an emergency but he was primarily an ILB.
He was primarily an ILB in the 3-4, which was the best fit for him. But, he did play outside for a full season in the 3-4.

But, again, we don't dissagree that Curry's best fit is at ILB. We also don't dissagree that Donnie's best fit was at ILB.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:41 AM   #107
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Tamba Hali has a couple fans left.
Fans? Not really.

You can't throw everybody away in one offseason, especially somebody that we spent a 1st-rounder on.

Be realistic.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:42 AM   #108
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Donnie Edwards played ILB in the 3-4 and teams don't spend premium draft picks on 3-4 ILB unless they're the Patriots and they're loaded everywhere already.
You are right... teams don't. And, most of the time they shouldn't.

In this case, I think it is the player that makes the most sense.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:43 AM   #109
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If we draft Curry, we need TWO.

DJ is an ILB. Curry is an ILB. Vrabel is a spot player at this point. Hali MIGHT be able to play OLB in a situational role. If we draft Curry, we need two starting OLB's.
In sum, then, we wouldn't have addressed the 3 most important positions in a 3-4. But, by all means, Curry makes sense in every other respect.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:43 AM   #110
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Fans? Not really.

You can't throw everybody away in one offseason, especially somebody that we spent a 1st-rounder on.

Be realistic.
I don't care where he was picked when you change regimes who bring new schemes guys who don't fit gotta go.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:43 AM   #111
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If we draft Curry, we need TWO.

DJ is an ILB. Curry is an ILB. Vrabel is a spot player at this point. Hali MIGHT be able to play OLB in a situational role. If we draft Curry, we need two starting OLB's.
If you make the assumption that Vrabel can't handle a full load then we need two. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt until i actually see him play here. We definitely need to be grooming Vrabel's replacement asap.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:44 AM   #112
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When did Edwards play OLB in the 3-4 for the Chargers?
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...004_roster.htm
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:44 AM   #113
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They need a nose tackle more than anything...the rush backers can be had in many places if you look around you'll see plenty of examples the nose however is much harder to find.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:47 AM   #114
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Also if this team is going to try to make an exception for a player that doesn't really fit the defense its Dorsey not Hali from everything to natural talent to contract numbers.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:48 AM   #115
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Which do we need more Curry or Raji?

I wonder which player is ranked higher on the Chiefs' board.
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Which do we need more Curry or Raji?

I wonder which player is ranked higher on the Chiefs' board.
Raji plays the much more valued position.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:54 AM   #117
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I don't care where he was picked when you change regimes who bring new schemes guys who don't fit gotta go.
Not at all at once, they don't.
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In sum, then, we wouldn't have addressed the 3 most important positions in a 3-4. But, by all means, Curry makes sense in every other respect.
It's not rocket science, is it?
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:56 AM   #119
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Okay, first off; Spit Bubble salutes you, Nonsensical Chiefs Fan! He appreciates your advocacy and continued support!

Second,
Dorsey, Flowers, Carr, and Leggitt; that is our defense. That is it,and there ain't no more.

Much roster to fill. Much.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:58 AM   #120
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Also if this team is going to try to make an exception for a player that doesn't really fit the defense its Dorsey not Hali from everything to natural talent to contract numbers.
They're going to have to make SEVERAL exceptions if they plan on going 3-4 right away.

None of our existing DL would be ideal starters in a 3-4. Some of them might be backups at various positions, but we have no starters.

DJ is a starting ILB in a 3-4. Other than him and Vrabel (who might be a backup at this point) we have no starters at LB, either.

Pollard MIGHT be a decent SS in a pressure D. Page has no position, and both of our CB's are zone guys who might struggle in a pressure D.

By my count, your scenario of not making exceptions would require us to get TEN new defensive players this offseason. That's not going to happen.
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