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Old 08-19-2014, 10:08 AM   #1
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It's a horrible plan. You basically waste two + years of Smith, Hali, DJ, Charles and Bowe for the hope that you are going to have a fantastic 2015 draft to build around. The ultimate hope being that those draft picks can replace the 5 aforementioned players.
Yep.

And so far they haven't proven that they can draft any better than the previous regime, in all honesty.
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:18 AM   #2
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It's a horrible plan. You basically waste two + years of Smith, Hali, DJ, Charles and Bowe for the hope that you are going to have a fantastic 2015 draft to build around. The ultimate hope being that those draft picks can replace the 5 aforementioned players.
The correct course of action was to trade Houston, Berry and JC in order to correctly rebuild the team.

But Clark cared more about the bottom line and wanted gate revenue instead.
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:20 AM   #3
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The correct course of action was to trade Houston, Berry and JC in order to correctly rebuild the team.

But Clark cared more about the bottom line and wanted gate revenue instead.
Or you could have signed Houston and Berry, jettisoned some old players, and picked up a stopgap QB that didn't cost two 2nd-round draft picks.

You know actually build for the future...
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:22 AM   #4
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Or you could have signed Houston and Berry, jettisoned some old players, and picked up a stopgap QB that didn't cost two 2nd-round draft picks.

You know actually build for the future...
Keeping Houston pigeonholes the team into sticking with a 3-4. Probably could have had a better coordinator than Bob Sutton if the team wasn't set on sticking to that alignment.
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Old 08-19-2014, 11:12 AM   #5
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The correct course of action was to trade Houston, Berry and JC in order to correctly rebuild the team.

But Clark cared more about the bottom line and wanted gate revenue instead.
Trading Houston and Berry would have been idiocy. Trading Charles could have made some sense if he wasn't a running back (which is a catch-22, really, since him being a running back is the only reason to trade him at this point in his career). Since he's a running back, though, they probably couldn't have gotten fair compensation for him.
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:08 AM   #6
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I don't think it will be as bad as the numbers would lead one to believe. But I don't think it's going to be good, either.
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:38 AM   #7
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:38 AM   #8
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:13 PM   #10
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Did someone act like Carolina has a world-beating defensive line? Did someone espouse that notion?

Because if they did, I fart in their general direction.
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Old 08-19-2014, 01:02 PM   #11
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Did someone act like Carolina has a world-beating defensive line? Did someone espouse that notion?

Because if they did, I fart in their general direction.
They do have a good line
Great front seven in general

They did lead the league in sacks last year
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Because if they did, I fart in their general direction.

CP, ladies and gentlemen!

Only on CP is a defensive line featuring Charles Johnson, Greg Hardy and Star Lotululei not considered one of the best in the league.
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Old 08-19-2014, 01:35 PM   #13
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CP, ladies and gentlemen!

Only on CP is a defensive line featuring Charles Johnson, Greg Hardy and Star Lotululei not considered one of the best in the league.
I couldn't tell from his post, but I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was being sarcastic.
That Defense was #2 in the league last year behind Seattle. Their front seven is arguably the best in the league let alone just that amazing Dline.
That very well could be the best Dline we face all year.
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Not sure if is a strength of technique issue, but it seems to me Fishers tends to lunge at defenders

Most guys that do that do so because they get constantly pushed back and or knocked off balance easily

He is going to give up a lot of quick pressures until he can figure that out
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Old 08-19-2014, 02:05 PM   #15
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Not sure if is a strength of technique issue, but it seems to me Fishers tends to lunge at defenders

Most guys that do that do so because they get constantly pushed back and or knocked off balance easily

He is going to give up a lot of quick pressures until he can figure that out
Lunging as an offensive linemen is a clear sign that your technique has broken down...otherwise, you bend your knees and use your arms and hips to properly mirror the man you are blocking.

I didn't get a chance to watch either PS game (a few minutes of the second half of the Panthers game) and cant speak from my own viewing of the game, but if he is still lunging that's a HUGE red flag at this point.

Fishers upper body strength is below average and it seems that his technique is just as bad as last year, too if he truly is constantly lunging at defenders out of desperation.
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