Get rid of all these worthless players this offseason

[RunKC]

AJ Jenkins
Donnie Avery
Mike DeVito (his Achilles' tendon is AIDS)
Mike McGlynn
Ryan Harris
Joe Mays
Chris Owens
Kurt Coleman
Josh Muaga
Jeff Linkenbach
Frankie Hammond Jr
Chase Daniel
Anthony Fasano
Jeff Allen

With McGrath's retirement money that is $20 million dollars to us next year. Cut these AIDS infested failures polluting this team and bring some quality players in.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Or those are the only routes Alex feels comfortable throwing. I've been banging the drum for a while now but all you ever see him throw is slants, hitches, and flat routes to RBs. Obviously that's not ALL he throws, but I'll be damned if it doesn't appear to be about 90% of his passes. He'll have the occasional crossing route or drag thrown in from time to time.

Where are the deep posts, the go routes, the corner routes, any type of double move whatsoever?

You've admitted that we've been seeing open receivers down the field after the games have been played. Alex just doesn't like pulling the trigger.

There have been opportunity's to throw down the field, Alex just not taking the shots. Andy likes to attack horizontally instead of vertically, so you get a lot more passing concepts like shallow crosses, dagger, mesh concept..anything with a short crosser and maybe a dig behind it. Makes it easy for Alex to just read one defender. He will flood the sideline but never takes the deeper read.. usually always throws the receiver guy running the arrow (either a RB or WR). He is also a big fan of double slants, curl/flat, stick and tare concepts which is why it seems like Bowe is always catching a curl/hitch/comeback. Theres nothing wrong with these concepts- they are universally run throughout the NFL. Problem is KC does not try to stretch vertically with the exception of Kelce/Fasano running a seam. Why no smash concepts? Hitch/corner? Because that is a long throw.. too long for Alex to trust himself. The distance to throw a 30yd seam route is not the same as a 30yd corner route.

[PunkinDrublic]

That last fumble from Avery was inexcusable. No excuses for being that careless with the ball. I get that the game was over but you still have to try and build some positive momentum on offense.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by penbook

Ford has played 7.5% of the defensive plays this year. Hali has played 92.5% of the defensive plays. Hali isn't going anywhere next year

He's not what he was. He's clearly declining. Bailey, Poe and the best pass rusher in the league on the other side to take away attention and he can only get 5 sacks?

He's currently the 2nd highest paid OLB behind Clay Matthews and has a cap number of just under $12 million next year. The production isn't matching the salary.

I'd be in favor of cutting him and then making a new team friendly deal like Terrell Suggs did with the Ravens. That would put him at half of his cap # next year.

I also don't like keeping a first round non-QB pick on the bench another year. Dorsey says he builds through the draft. This time will come in the next 2 years either way. Might as well just do it now why we can get good money back.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I've got a question for you Sorter, if you don't mind. In looking at the KC offense, I see it basically like this:

If you like Kelce, you've got

Charles
Smith
Kelce
Fisher
Hudson

as players who are pretty much locked in as starters next year. Bowe could be a salary cap casualty. The rest of the offense is probably going to be open competition because of level of play combined with other circumstances. The offensive overhaul might well mean 6 new starters.

Is that what you're seeing?

Pretty much. I'd anticipate them starting Fulton next year at RG but that should be open comp. as well.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

There have been opportunity's to throw down the field, Alex just not taking the shots. Andy likes to attack horizontally instead of vertically, so you get a lot more passing concepts like shallow crosses, dagger, mesh concept..anything with a short crosser and maybe a dig behind it. Makes it easy for Alex to just read one defender. He will flood the sideline but never takes the deeper read.. usually always throws the receiver guy running the arrow (either a RB or WR). He is also a big fan of double slants, curl/flat, stick and tare concepts which is why it seems like Bowe is always catching a curl/hitch/comeback. Theres nothing wrong with these concepts- they are universally run throughout the NFL. Problem is KC does not try to stretch vertically with the exception of Kelce/Fasano running a seam. Why no smash concepts? Hitch/corner? Because that is a long throw.. too long for Alex to trust himself. The distance to throw a 30yd seam route is not the same as a 30yd corner route.

Agreed.

I'd love to see this concept Weis used quite a bit while with KC. Ideally have Bowe as #1 (although interesting if you used Kelce) with whomever you wanted as #2 (to really sell the horizontal stretch, I think splitting Charles/Thomas out would be fun).

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Pretty much. I'd anticipate them starting Fulton next year at RG but that should be open comp. as well.

Any idea why LDT hasn't played Sorter? He has the size and athleticism. Plus he's kinda good at learning things as he did go through med school while playing football.
I just don't get it. He's got to be better than Linkenbach and McGlynn.

Maybe they want to get him more experience before putting him out there? "shrugs"

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Any idea why LDT hasn't played Sorter? He has the size and athleticism. Plus he's kinda good at learning things as he did go through med school while playing football.
I just don't get it. He's got to be better than Linkenbach and McGlynn.

Maybe they want to get him more experience before putting him out there? "shrugs"

I suppose he's worse than McGlynn.

*shudders*

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sorter

I suppose he's worse than McGlynn.

*shudders*

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Why don't teams blitz QB's like Manning and Brady ? Because those guys can consistently find an open hot receiver and turn a short pass into a huge gain.

Now, I realize Smith isn't in the same class as those guys. But, to some on this board, he's in the next tier. With that in mind, how often does Smith hit a hot receiver on a blitz? Make a team pay for putting 8 or 9 in the box? Even a guy like Hoyer can do it once in a while. When does Smith make any defense respect the passing game?

While you're right in that Alex is not a blitz killer, the bigger problem is the OL. I'm not saying that to excuse Alex... he is what he is. This OL is an abortion.

KC runs a lot of max protect, and they STILL can't even pick up the blitz properly... let alone hold the pocket against one. If you send 5 guys even if we keep 6 or 7 our dumbass OL will **** up on the pick up somewhere and someone will get a free hit.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I can see Allen and possibly Mauga and Coleman for the league minimum, but why Mays? He's going to cost us $4 million next year. I just can't justify paying him that.

And what's the deal with Daniel? If Alex gets hurt we're screwed either way. Chase Daniel isn't going to come in and start winning us games, plus with the way we play, we get the ball out so fast and hand it off so much (well some games ) that Alex isn't in any major jeopardy of getting hurt.

It's time for Dorsey to start doing what he says. He's building through the draft. Well Aaron Murray should be able to take over the back up role with his skill set and experience in college.

Dee Ford should be able to take over for Tamba next year. He's a first round pick for christ sakes.

I'm going to be pissed if these guys don't move up the depth chart next year, especially Ford.

I think they retain Mays because he's the best run-stuffer on the team at ILB. Reid's coaching staff is very talented, but they're a bitch about benching anybody for poor performance.

I don't disagree on Daniel. I just know the Chiefs love him.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

While you're right in that Alex is not a blitz killer, the bigger problem is the OL. I'm not saying that to excuse Alex... he is what he is. This OL is an abortion.

KC runs a lot of max protect, and they STILL can't even pick up the blitz properly... let alone hold the pocket against one. If you send 5 guys, our dumbass OL will **** up on the pick up somewhere and someone will get a free hit.

On one play the Broncos rushed 4 guys. No joke. And one was TJ Ward who beat Eric Fisher. We had 5 blockers. JFC

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Sorter

I suppose he's worse than McGlynn.

*shudders*

It's because Reid's coaching staff, while very talented, is very dogmatic.

Aaron Murray could shoot rainbows out of his ass as a QB and the staff wouldn't move him to #2 QB over Booger.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I think they retain Mays because he's the best run-stuffer on the team at ILB. Reid's coaching staff is very talented, but they're a bitch about benching anybody for poor performance.

I don't disagree on Daniel. I just know the Chiefs love him.

I really want us to cut Mays, use his $3 million dollars saved and use it to bring in David Harris.

He'll likely cost $4.5 million but I'm fine with that. Played in Sutton's defense in NY, Rex will be gone and he probably won't want to start a new scheme with a new coach in a bad situation.

He's a very good LB and has been playing in this scheme for 5 years. He's only 30 years old and has a couple quality years left at worst.
Can't help but want him here not only for his talent but his leadership and knowledge. Plug and play.

[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I don't disagree on Daniel. I just know the Chiefs love him.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Any idea why LDT hasn't played Sorter?

He's too raw. He's a 6th round project that played at a small Canadian school. This is only his third season as an offensive lineman.

He'll have a chance to compete next year.